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On 02/03/19 08:53, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: |
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> Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2019, 14:41:19 CET schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand: |
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>> On 2/3/19 12:44 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: |
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>>> Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2019, 05:22:09 CET schrieb desultory: |
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>>>> ComRel, as I have previously mentioned, engages in some extremely |
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>>>> questionable practices, though (again) to their credit at least they |
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>>>> admit it. |
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>>> And parts of forums should rather go away sooner than later, given how |
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>>> even |
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>>> moderators take part in highly questionable threads. That mess also |
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>>> reflects on Gentoo as a whole. |
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>> To be more concrete here if we want to put it on the agenda, we're |
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>> talking about OTW only, or are there other categories etc that are |
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>> non-gentoo-related on official communication channels? |
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> My main point is that OTW needs to be nuked from orbit. |
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Your "main point" appears to ignore how developers regularly engage in |
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discussion at least as "bad" as what has been cited in other official |
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channels without anyone, at least seriously, calling for e.g #gentoo-dev |
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to be "nuked from orbit". Your "main point" also ignores that several |
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users who regularly provide support, you know the thing the forums are |
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primarily for, spend as much time on the forums as they do in part due |
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to having something like Off the Wall functioning as a sort of social hall. |
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> That said, I'm not sure how much the forums / forum mods are still integrated |
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> with the developer community in general. Maybe we devs just need to become |
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> more active on the forums. Sometimes it feels like a parallel universe (where |
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> Spock has a beard) though. |
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Developers do, and have, taken part in the forums. Yes there have been |
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negative interactions with developers, but it is mostly minor and |
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handled when found or reported and by far the worst cases have involved |
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the developers behaving far and away worse than the users they were in |
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conflict with. |
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So if you are looking to become more active on the forums you are |
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entirely welcome to it, but bear in mind that the rules apply to |
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developers every bit as much as they do to users, if you consider that |
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to be a "disconnect" then I would suggest considering how that "reflects |
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on Gentoo as a whole". |
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As for describing the forums as something that "feels like" the |
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stereotypical evil mirror universe, might I suggest some reading |
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material for you? [CoC] |
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[CoC] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct |
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