From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fg9Pn-0003aU-Gj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 May 2006 23:57:23 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4GNvJij009441; Tue, 16 May 2006 23:57:19 GMT Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com ([65.98.89.194]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4GNvFV5023535 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 23:57:18 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A8C7D814 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 19:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (halcy0n.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11286-03 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 19:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 98ECE7D81E; Tue, 16 May 2006 19:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 19:57:13 -0400 From: Mark Loeser To: gentoo-qa@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-qa] Support of other package managers Message-ID: <20060516235713.GA10815@aerie.halcy0n.com> References: <20060516174812.GE7092@aerie.halcy0n.com> <448F0F30.3000302@gentoo.org> <20060516195654.GA260@woodpecker.gentoo.org> <446A4E17.8010203@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-qa@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-qa@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <446A4E17.8010203@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at halcy0n.com X-Archives-Salt: c34eaa99-55f7-4ad4-baed-6c2113c879e6 X-Archives-Hash: 9133045c295823d3e86631ab170c7511 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zac Medico said: > Yeah, I think what's really needed is a specification of what is allowed = in > gentoo's official portage tree. Let's take "per-package use.mask" (bug > 96368) as an example. It could be implemented as package.use.mask or as > package.mask + use deps. Which will it be? Will paludis, pkgcore, and p= ortage > all handle this functionality the same way or not? If we're going to all= ow new > features such as this into the official portage tree, we need to make sur= e that > they conform to a specification that everyone has agreed upon. This is the exact problem I'm trying to address. You'll never get all of the projects to agree, since they all want to go in slightly different directions and do different things. All three are great ideas, but we should only support the one that is official for Gentoo, and not make any changes to the tree. (Note: changes here is any modification or addition of files in the tree for the sole purpose of working with an alternate package manager) Either way, I think this is something we should hold off on for now, and have the council decide upon. We shouldn't just make these changes without having some discussion taking place (the flamewar on g-dev@ is not a discussion, and is only a small minority of people giving their two cents). Whatever the decision is, the addition of another package manager makes QA harder to do since we have to consider all of them. Adding a new package manager and saying we don't support it, nor are we sure if we will ever support it, does not seem acceptable at all to me. The decision should be made if we plan on supporting it so we can work on actually supporting it, or if this should be a completely separate project and they can work on their own to make changes to ebuilds which support their own functionality. --=20 Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEambZCRZPokWLroQRAntTAJ9YJh1eikovdfxWPQb0ZK5W3SyAwQCgojxZ rUYAGkOdmfJPLt6S8fmykd0= =GDnZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- -- gentoo-qa@gentoo.org mailing list