From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OrYkS-00036I-Hl for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:04:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D7FFE0871 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2010 16:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rookery.halcy0n.com (rookery.halcy0n.com [69.72.242.50]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AEBE067D for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rookery.halcy0n.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B57D7A5620; Fri, 3 Sep 2010 11:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 11:17:15 -0400 From: Mark Loeser To: gentoo-qa@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-qa] QA confusion: Upstream qa issues -> failing to install Message-ID: <20100903151715.GF21473@halcy0n.com> References: <201008251342.14948.bangert@gentoo.org> <20100825182755.GA6815@halcy0n.com> <201008260002.14965.bangert@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-qa@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-qa@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tVmo9FyGdCe4F4YN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201008260002.14965.bangert@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-Archives-Salt: 63f91f91-85fa-49ff-9ad1-6037c659950d X-Archives-Hash: 4aaad36d1ed3e357c165d174f73e0772 --tVmo9FyGdCe4F4YN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thilo Bangert said: > Mark Loeser said: > > Thilo Bangert said: > > > trying to install openssh on the dev profile one is greated with this > > >=20 > > > bugger: > > > * QA Notice: Package has poor programming practices which may > > > compile * fine but exhibit random runtime failures. > > > * closefromtest.c:46: warning: implicit declaration of function > > >=20 > > > =E2=80=98closefrom=E2=80=99 > > >=20 > > > * Please do not file a Gentoo bug and instead report the above QA > > > * issues directly to the upstream developers of this software. > > >=20 > > > This looks really really weird. On the one hand we are saying: "Its a > > > QA issue but upstream should fix it." followed by "It so broke, we > > > wont let you install it." > >=20 > > Personally I think we should be directing our users to our Bugzilla > > always. We really don't want to be pissing off upstreams if we put in > > a patch that triggers one of these QA warnings and it ends up being > > our problem and not theirs. >=20 > i would agree, that all issues should be reported in our own bugzilla=20 > (also). >=20 > It would be really nice if we somehow could annotate the bug, in the=20 > ebuild, so that the warning already includes the bug number (or is=20 > silenced by it) in an effort to reduce the number of duplicates. >=20 > where are these qa checks implemented anyway? /usr/lib/portage/bin/misc-functions.sh We should probably get a discussion going with the dev community as a whole as to what we should change this text to, and why, so we don't bother upstreams with our own possible problems. --=20 Mark Loeser email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org email - mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://www.halcy0n.com --tVmo9FyGdCe4F4YN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFMgRF7CRZPokWLroQRArNtAKDKViD7YVw5gIRLBaAOZgzdQhDGbACcC5BJ Fei/0SQKP/BiAHqP3e8bbHk= =XQb/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tVmo9FyGdCe4F4YN--