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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-releng@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-releng] 2006.0? nptl?
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:18:03
Message-Id: 1126880197.23324.123.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-releng] 2006.0? nptl? by solar
1 On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 09:42 -0400, solar wrote:
2 > On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 08:35 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
3 > > So... What do we say to going nptl across the board for 2006.0 on every
4 > > platform that supports 2.6 headers? This would, of course, require
5 > > approval from each arch team, but I'm sure ppc and amd64 are chomping at
6 > > the bits for this one, and it sounds like the x86 arch team is wanting
7 > > it also.
8 >
9 > ppc32 - has problems with nptl when not using linuxthreads (oddly it
10 > works with ASLR in place however).
11 >
12 > x86 - sometimes has problems with *some* clients and the RTLD.
13 > Seems to be a problem with ld.so paths and having intermixed
14 > nptl/shared/static handling but I'm not sure. I have had nothing but
15 > success on x86 with it, but others seem to.
16 >
17 > amd64 - Seems to support it well.
18 >
19 > mips, sparc, ia64, m68k, arm - (don't know)
20 >
21 > Sadly we don't really have any NPTL guru's (know of any?) that are able
22 > to quickly fix nptl bugs so they just keep piling up in bugzilla.
23 >
24 > There remain outstanding bugs with nptl problems.
25 >
26 > http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=nptl&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=nptl&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=nptl&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=nptl
27 >
28 > uclibc-* does not support nptl yet.
29 >
30 > To me it would seem the ideal time to make the switch to NPTL is when
31 > the toolchain is gcc-4.x/glibc-2.3.6 are doing it by default and in
32 > stable.
33
34 This actually stems from a discussion on #gentoo-x86 where Azarah was
35 discussing how we need to switch to nptl for default specifically for
36 gcc-4.x/glibc-2.3.6 to be able to go stable. I'm just trying to get a
37 conversation going here on what pitfalls we might run across on various
38 platforms and if we're ready to make that plunge.
39
40 --
41 Chris Gianelloni
42 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
43 Games - Developer
44 Gentoo Linux

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Re: [gentoo-releng] 2006.0? nptl? Daniel Ostrow <dostrow@g.o>