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From: Barry Schwartz <trashman@×××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-security@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-security] System knockout :-(
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:03:23
Message-Id: 20040406150302.GB4306@winternet.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-security] System knockout :-( by Andrew Joyce
1 Andrew Joyce <joyce@××××××××××××.ca> wrote:
2 > If you consider the case where each drive alone has a a 10% chance
3 > of failing, two drives simultaneously failing should have a 1%
4 > chance of happening.
5
6 This calculation assumes that the failure of one drive does not give
7 any information about the possible failure of the second drive. That
8 is not the case. If conditions were such that one drive failed, then
9 you should become less confident about your other drives.
10
11 For example, I have seen an entire room of Sun workstations have their
12 hard drives go bad at once. Sun's explanation was that the bearings
13 in these drives were packed with the wrong lubricant. These
14 improperly lubricated bearings wore out and failed at a more or less
15 constant rate.
16
17 On another occasion, a friend of mine bought two hard drives, same
18 make and model, with the plan of using the second drive for backup.
19 Both failed at the same time. Two of the same model drive, probably
20 made at the same place and time, and installed into the same
21 computer -- if you think about it, it wasn't a good idea. Whatever
22 would make one drive fail would likely cause the other to fail.
23
24 (To put that in jargon: you have to multiply by the _conditional_
25 probability that the second drive will fail, contingent upon the
26 failure of the first drive.)
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Re: [gentoo-security] System knockout :-( Anthony Metcalf <anthony.metcalf@×××××××××××.cx>
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Re: [gentoo-security] System knockout :-( "Sandino Araico Sánchez" <sandino@×××××××.net>