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From: "Łukasz C. Jokiel" <Lukasz.Jokiel@××××××××××.pl>
To: gentoo-security <gentoo-security@l.g.o>
Subject: RE: [gentoo-security] hosts.{allow,deny} vs. iptables.
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:25:07
Message-Id: vvyTMOUo.1129231060.9485930.lcj@poczta.klonex.com.pl
In Reply to: RE: [gentoo-security] hosts.{allow,deny} vs. iptables. by Giles Coochey
1 10/13/2005, "Giles Coochey" <giles.coochey@××××××××××××××××.com>
2 napisa³(a):
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4 >Iptables is nice because it is at kernel level, if someone were to try
5 >to hack it so that your Iptables commands were ignored then they would
6 >need to be able to reboot the box, something that you would probably
7
8 Do I understand correctly that you claim that to undo the iptables you
9 need to reboot box ? Or maybe you claim something that you assume but do
10 not tell (non-vanilla hardened systemem) ?
11
12 >notice in a managed environment.
13 >
14 >Tcpd runs in userspace, so given root access is a lot easier to
15 >compromise the executable.
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17 I don't get your point... If you give me root access - what's the
18 difference in r00ting the box via fake iptables or tcpd ?
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20 Anyway comparing iptables with tcpd is rather useless, they seem to
21 perform the same job but they fight on different fronts.
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