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From: Mateusz Arkadiusz Mierzwinski <mateuszmierzwinski@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-security@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-security] #342619 RESOLVED WONTFIX
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:05:41
Message-Id: AANLkTinMrBTW-DhqO+ooNhuhTN=-_duPgySPottKvQC-@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-security] #342619 RESOLVED WONTFIX by Pavel Labushev
1 2010/10/28 Pavel Labushev <p.labushev@×××××.com>
2
3 > > I didn't test that patch; even if it's incorrect, bugreport is not about
4 > > a patch. It's about a security issue.
5 >
6 > Well, the bug report is about the patch. There's another bug about the
7 > issues with LD_AUDIT: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341755
8 >
9
10 "The beat goes on! Nothings wrong!...". Tell me - If app have bug - like
11 "calc" ;) app in KDE - who uses it? Developers will not patch app because
12 it's less then 1% users that use it in KDE? I don't think so. Even if it's
13 lower priority patch i think it should be included in mainstream. It's like
14 buying a car, that closes by remote but 1% of users will still use key for
15 central lock - ups! None included? Service: "Sorry! That's not mainstream
16 ;). You must install it by Yourself" :].
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18
19 >
20 > > This proof-of-concept exploit still works in gentoo (amd64 stable at
21 > least,
22 > > even hardened!), because some dangerous variables are not filtered out.
23 >
24 > It still works because glibc-2.11.2-r2 with the fix is still keyworded
25 > (yeah, epic fail goes on).
26 >
27 >
28 Let's keyword everything, push "da blocks, man!" on every package and this
29 will be most secured distro :>. Great Job! :)
30
31 I think, that Gentoo Devs forget about something more important in today's
32 world - USABILITY. The "normal" user without "extra abilities" will not
33 Patch anything because he don't even know what PATCH is. Developers have
34 those users TOO on Gentoo. This is strenght of Mandriva, Debian-like distros
35 (Ubuntu line specialy). Users click and software works, it upgrades and if
36 bug is get the patch is downloaded with latest update. Tell mister "Marian"
37 from accounting that he must PATCH something. I like that kind of face look
38 of that people after saying that Junk -> :] "Yeah! Sure... What icon should
39 I press in My "K" Menu?".
40
41 Devs should include patches in mainstream even if it's less prior patch.
42 Why? Because it takes about 2-10 (knowledge level) minutes extra and drops
43 discussions like this one. 10 Minutes extra VS silence - i think it's fair
44 :).
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49 Mateusz Mierzwiński
50
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