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From: MIkey <mikey@×××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-server@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-server] Re: Re: Re: [OT] Mirroring/backing-up a large
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:34:14
Message-Id: 200604201631.k3KGVZJ6007978@gw.open-hosting.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-server] Re: Re: [OT] Mirroring/backing-up a large by kashani
1 kashani wrote:
2
3 > Running through the Dell storage page you end up spending $20k (list)
4 > for their 12 SATA drive NAS device w/ 3year NBD, dual PS, etc. RAID 6 it
5 > up and you've got 5TB usable. I'm sure there are cheaper options (feel
6 > free to point them out), but I don't think you're going to save that
7 > much over going directly to an iSCSI/NFS SAN with a second or third tier
8 > vendor... ie not Netapp or EMC. And you've got to manage x number of
9 > boxes, don't get volume management, snapshots, etc, and still have to
10 > shuffle data around manually for backups or at least hot storage.
11
12 An example of cheaper nas boxes:
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14 http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT3184179979.html
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16 > How about the question, "Is losing 20% of your data any better than
17 > losing 100% of your data?" IMO data loss is data loss whether it's
18 > complete or partial. Of course assuming you have backups restoring 20%
19 > is easier so it's possible I'm wrong here. I'm still not buying the
20 > scenario where managing nine single points of failure is better than
21 > managing one. And I think I can eliminate all the single points in a
22 > single large system easier then rewriting my application to round robin
23 > across 15 data stores that contain partial backups of each other.
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25 Frankly if you are attempting to manage 9TB of data for customers and
26 managing 9 systems scares you, you need to start thinking about a change in
27 career choices. Where are these 15 data stores you are talking about?
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29 The point to distributing the load to more devices is not to limit loss to
30 20%. It is to make it easier to back up, restore, replicate, upgrade,
31 maintain, administer, provide higher availability, redundancy, etc...
32 Google "google file system" to bone up on the concept...
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34 Other options are investing your entire business on a single point of
35 failure (single device), sans which can be clustered/raided, or using some
36 service like akamai and not dealing with it at all ;)
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Re: [gentoo-server] Re: Re: Re: [OT] Mirroring/backing-up a large jos houtman <jos@×××××.nl>