Re: [gentoo-server] initng and runscript

[Kalin KOZHUHAROV]

Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 10:45 +0100, Andrea Carpani wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I'm looking around for alternatives to runscript style init scripts as I
>>don't like very much default gentoo scripts. While I do like the
>>depencencies stuff I still don't get why a "status" on a script gives
>>"started" if the process died badly, or why I need to manually do a zap
>>(can't restart do it for me?).
>
> The init-scripts only save state and don't check if the service is doing what it is supposed to do.
Yes, and that is by design.

>>I think status should be implemented in each init script and should give
>>the real status of the service be it a ps|grep or whatever.
>
> That would make init-scripts much more complicated and buggy I think.
> While that would be optimal I don't see it happening in the near future.
> Also it is really hard to reliably detect a service in a "working"
> state, so you'd only check "does any process named sshd run?" which is
> also mildly buggy :-) etc. etc.
> It's not as easy as it sounds.
>
>
>>One more thing I'd like to see is a init controlled check on the death
>>of some daemons (sort of what daemontools does).
Yes, use daemontools :-)

Gentoo fellow chutz has almost complete system under daemontools and I am following his way.
I hope to be able to provide a more general "all-in-/service" solutuion.

> If I'm not mistaken a looooong time ago Gentoo used daemontools by default.
Don't remember this, and I am using Gentoo for a long time...

>>This is why I'm asking: has anyone here seriously tested/used initng new
>>scripts?
>
> There are many different monitoring tools ... but none of them are easy
> to integrate into baselayout.
What else is there apart form daemontools, I know of any other..

Kalin.
/also known as korokoro or tar/
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