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From: "Honza Macháček" <Hloupy.Honza@×××××××.cz>
To: gentoo-user-cs@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user-cs] flash
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:54:56
Message-Id: 427B9365.6010108@centrum.cz
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user-cs] flash by theruck
1 theruck pise:
2 > v netscape mi flash funguje ja hovorim prave o konquerore
3
4 Podle Googlu ma tenhle problem tolik lidi, ze se dostal na
5 http://www.konqueror.org/faq/#WhydoesKonquerorcrashoneverypagewithFlash
6 -- odpoved zni:
7
8 > This is a result of a clashing symbol in both the flash plugin and
9 > the XFree86 libGLU (OpenGL utility lib). Upon closing an embedded
10 > flash view, the wrong function is called which heavily corrupts
11 > memory and leads to either immediately or delayed crashes, lockups
12 > and worse. The only solution that is currently known is either to
13 > install Qt without OpenGL support or to not use the Flash plugin. You
14 > can't combine both until this symbol clash is somehow solved.
15 > Unfortunately we cannot do much about this issue, unless Macromedia
16 > is willing to help. Another reason for Konqueror to crash on every
17 > page using a Netscape plugin is the use of gcc3. Plugins can't work
18 > with gcc3 because they are linked to gcc2's libstdc++, which is
19 > incompatible with gcc3's libstdc++.
20
21 Vzhledem k tomu, ze gcc-2.neco (emerge -pv \<gcc-3 zminuje 2.95.3-r8)
22 je nutno nejdriv odmaskovat (aspon muj soucasny profil chce
23 >=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1), snad bych radeji plugin od Macromedia
24 vyhodil, stejne se flash pouziva vetsinou na doternou reklamu a otravne
25 paradicky.
26 Ale s multislot v USE lze snad gcc2 zatahout na pocitac bez vaznejsiho
27 rizika; otazka je, na co vsechno by si clovek musel gcc-configem nastvit
28 gcc2 a prekompilovat, aby dostal gcc3-free konqueror. Snad se to da
29 udelat nekde stranou v docasnem adresari, slinkovat gcc2 konqueror
30 staticky, hodit si jej do skutecneho systemu a zbytek zlikvidovat, ale
31 stejne by to byla priserna prace (prinejmensim pro pocesor). Pro zacatek
32 bych radeji zadoufal, ze Macromedia uz kompiluji svuj plugin gcc3 a
33 zbyva jen ten problem s OpenGL -- a nutnost prekompilovat qt bez OpenGL
34 (pravdepodobne tedy
35 USE="-opengl" emerge qt konqueror
36 jestli ne
37 USE="-opengl" emerge -e konqueror). Ma smysl odstranovat kvuli flashi
38 OpenGL z celeho KDE (jakoz i pripadnych jinych aplikaci nad qt)? Opet
39 bych uvazoval o tom, zda se takova kompilace konqueroru neda udelat
40 stranou ostatnich programu a slinkovat staticky, a hlavne samozrejme o
41 tom, zda mi flash plugin vubec stoji za namahu.
42 Konec koncu, kdyz se netscape kolizim knihoven nejak vyhyba, neni
43 nakonec nejjednodusi volat na stranky s fashem prave netscape?
44
45 Snad jedno svetlo na konci tunelu bych videl. emerge -s flash najde
46 net-www/gplflash -- ,,GPLFlash is a free portable and useable
47 alternative to the flash-decoder released by Macromedia`` -- a
48 media-libs/libflash -- ,,A library for flash animations``. Ona sice
49 stranka http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/ zas tak nadejne nevypada
50 (,,Clicking does not work for many newer flash-animations...`` a ,,The
51 browser-plugin is not stable...``) a http://www.swift-tools.com/Flash/
52 taky aspon varuje ,,The GPL Plugin is also not compatible with all Flash
53 versions,`` (zato nabizi krome pluginu a prehravace take screensaver pro
54 KDE), ale casem by to mohlo byt lepsi. A s GPL zrojaky mame aspon
55 teoreticky vic sanci neco poridit nez z binarkami od Macromedia, ne?
56
57 Budu-li mit v dohledne dobe cas a naladu hrat si s podporou flashe,
58 dam vedet, jake jsem ziskal bezprostredni zkusenosti.
59
60 Mejte se krasne.
61 Honza M.
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