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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <8489487.T7Z3S40VBb@rogueboard> <66445218-d9ff-82a1-f692-3ffa36af969c@gmail.com> <6023620.MhkbZ0Pkbq@rogueboard> From: Dale Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBGFSciYBEADcEGMyJBSuavKO/XKUVvgkxck7Nl8Iuu8N2lcnRji/rSKg5c1Acix1ll9i oW8JBCHwvn0+Xy60BvEsqcup3YSHw5STl/bR1ePEehtnYrg8FdjdS91+B805RfnKMm69rFVI wLSBHQrSG1yxHd8CloWoEdhmVtP24buajbh114bgXd9ahtpZrCVMrWdWYUg2mEXguGV5uNAh Rf8SWxDNc79w24JxsV34a8niMUYMjzWr0rafIbzk732X38vGjVMLo/2mMpkbp9mPp++LHoY+ 0Pet8zxxdXPJSCd475kza1AD+hhSyBZXB9yknYWgyY3cZe1rGmooJSi2KX4QxO7npwLThcO1 be6KKRkd35+Fi/a1BzVOHsZMiK/gcwxEFoMd27gir4ehaeHJfFXl+65w4hj0EsOZSxrJrm2C R50g5By2czSKP1bADEygFNpIJj51AR+wM88NImG2RPtlT2maYBzazvF05g65cdHXGp1C7W5P wwwKU2DgABB2t7N7z5A69LnryBRw4zUYDRRYLTYlBlYgg+xILm2c0OrBdxJgLJa7JE50Eo25 d3PFwt9J0gYvqy6sPFLl9So0sDg9zm0hKQtXOP5kgropUFGrNoJI+mjwF4rYLRBVzZwNAvlO OhEvHubBo3mEllv4x+FeptwXZxlk7gUsdqI8AxnFB8K9wi6FVQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgCGyMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AW IQQSG1h01ruv/WNXc3Q3RqOgiQH1GwUCYVJy8gAKCRA3RqOgiQH1G+waEACeTZCt77jnRAmQ AV7otKuZekDWiLi3Eig8tj5ZJiCNSYA/hIxzmexRP0GMqjitcXK1iGwWcvMzzvIq30GAjIfB 4BR38cnXbtBa6fNewiT7QaZe/Hn6yBRldXNQypzbHy+/o27bUEy+oX4rE7etUgEHQAjuw7xz XFWg4tH1/KJvsOVY5upnWc5LdxYhsuQ3dQD4b22GsK0pOBDfb9PiirYM8eGKvrVuq4E/c75z lDDFhINl18lNZ9D0ZFL3IkTjHsAAqFH9uhnnEB8CWdHbBewPEfRaOhBUYWZ3Q8uTkmDgZT8q D9jlvLEdw7Nh2ApdxoepnI/4D+ql2Gr4DtH7SEPydr5gcf1Qr/2bXRb1hAYnIVcbncs/Bm3Z bkRKPVWMfE3Fusa+p5hMzixk0YysMaTHlc7mYRYAEZGnPMXnmcCbetwARU7A0yz1M1kCMOAQ Lsz8KH5kv3cRenMB6SFfjND2JfAK61H5TtnPq3L8noS2ZykRYxq9Nm3X64O1tJojIKBoZFr8 AwYNCvqC6puUyGMuzHPh7jPof8glfrrEKIYUvNPGMDoVX3IGetxh/9l6NcxgFA4JGoR+LS3C zmeNrwlllAe3OEUfKoWVQ+pagpSdM+8hHolaSda4Ys66Z3fCR4ZvcTqfhTAVskpqdXa4isAk 7vTcXu3L499ttywEp7rJTbkCDQRhUnImARAAncUdVhmtRr59zqpTUppKroQYlzR0jv8oa7DG K4gakTAT2N7evnI9wpssmzyVk8VEiLzhnFQ/Ol3FRt6hZCXDJt0clyHOyTfvz/MNFttWuZTc mLpSvmRR6VRjAH+Tz3Eam2xUw3PGuH97BcXQ3NnX3msv1UDxtxxBu6e2YrdeOhrCUSgzokcJ 98ChUNy934cgepPybAI12lSWqVFQ1aG7jExZfiUk+333fPSDbpKoZbTW5YJLXbycmW/C1IWL qYQyNjRWKaGoJtUWFhhmNiOQct7n90aKivNVPavmN+UQ9LlMaINtf9T6XCzLfogCFsulDCDJ 0yNQLDTurHaB4E71xoctgXmLLq9z1RQ0W2XiVAAOZQj6K3+d0AOUjDhCQ2QW8dUSq0ckkZXV DKVJOGS8Nhf2eIWIqRnP3AcUiiaiFGqUaVUmUAZ6h/oJmgghEu/1S+pcuUKU5i69+XCZ3hH2 Jzwzbf7K+FAIkOhCfHncF8i1N1pk00pOVykNnqHTfFo3qFusHt0ZWgXVnnn4pYdXqZNoDhvF BRE5Vm4k/k96Pw8HRx6Os6eFSRrlqGzRgqsu86FekxusXB9UGv4lJhtU/J+8MRWsh22K718s DbQnABicGKFz1qQlWvcf59oTByhLINJCBt1WXl+TzJDXepr3QSkqmK41dO9Hob97C9dMiK8A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIAIbDBYhBBIbWHTWu6/9Y1dzdDdGo6CJAfUbBQJhUnLyAAoJEDdGo6CJ AfUbVHIQAKSWw620vPhR3A/njU2z77F3z/Jk+HTKdE3fIyWSWdkYN7CBFL0NguOMP30WZ+qE sJhZu7T5hf251MwQUUt27xlfnKYOmQs7CqONlXuXlGZI6WufrUjxNcVz+5gJsqvUWuuJWsgg sDmE92IBnfG/f81fPHWQyfr/SF4wYDMyoFp5xCCQpp1zB63iuFvvrhxBkEHzmbRtVDOhl0Xp BVEDR1w3QRACw9QJD/KM05Czv9JNQYlwinWO/OaQ9cMlUpKLgswUPg9IZ5vucxScfuAUA5uC B1jlAQ8ZPlVukBmbEv5RGOv+lpuEbA3YDMVtEeH4YMFbjt/+vH3Cr2vTbp5JlpByLburJEH0 WXZLUawEfUsZvVwpOuJK75vaa2HYXee+Cb3iCIzwfIfctdlqzUcbGRczlRNM59hpvj4z29Gh 3kAxVHItAYq54ikxQ9l4hQ8s9sLYPbX/WtcBxNX8crBSw0FLnmzGleVEtBHyqtt5CLzQNgrj GYWl1vKDUmRPw1CdZ1c+fMN9CY11jOM5B5ZnqZWfDeVYO2iJ5SuvTycChexCb8WYn1bdCBIo bBtga2RBXbVt4Mh9E4owsszefn51MwfjXxB20Fc5k3GU1AVpTCMs3ayYCzo0b2pvEvdjtDcA CYLEFPWgaFX9iQAM/CDfKvTtvgGWpqtCL2raq/mQoJEU Message-ID: <13a960f8-d96e-c7c7-f478-a411a5f9ca73@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 11:11:43 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6023620.MhkbZ0Pkbq@rogueboard> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------42BAD24375D7BD2B24DD905C" X-Archives-Salt: 4e73f559-f6a3-4192-a53d-6ebdf97ac667 X-Archives-Hash: 059575d6f14e97f3162a4a3e846747c4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------42BAD24375D7BD2B24DD905C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Michael wrote: > On Monday 10 February 2025 10:53:26 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > >> This is the perl I have installed. >> >> >> dev-lang/perl-5.40.0-r1:0/5.40 >> >> >> I'm not going to list all the stuff it spit out. Just going to include >> enough that you get the idea. >> >> >> * /usr/lib64/perl5/5.40/Parse/CPAN/Meta.pm >> * /usr/lib64/perl5/5.40/Config/Perl/V.pm >> * /usr/lib64/perl5/5.40/Config/Extensions.pm >> ... > These look legit files installed by portage for your perl 5.40 slot. The > message I received after perl-cleaner finished its job was: > ========================================= > * GNU info directory index is up-to-date. > * > * It seems like perl-cleaner had to rebuild some packages. > * > > * The following files remain. These were either installed by hand > * or edited. > > * /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.40/x86_64-linux/auto/Regexp/ > IPv6/.packlist > * /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.40/x86_64-linux/auto/File/Temp/.packlist > * /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.40/x86_64-linux/auto/File/ > Which/.packlist > * /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.40/x86_64-linux/auto/File/ > chdir/.packlist > [snip ...] > =============== > > They are all listed under /usr/lib64/perl5/. Say you want to check if these > are really orphaned files no longer owned by any installed package, you can > run: > > ~ $ qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.packlist") > ~ $ > ~ $ qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pm") > ~ $ > ~ $ qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pod") > ~ $ > ~ $ qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pl") > ~ $ > > and so on. In my example above I did not discover any orphans. > > >> They appear to be for the current installed versions. That's one reason >> it is kinda confusing. o_O > I see what you mean, the message "... These were either installed by hand or > edited" can be confusing, because all these perl5 files were installed by > portage and perl was invariably brought in as a dependency by some other > @system or @world package. I ran the ones above just to get a general idea.  I got this.  root@Gentoo-1 / # qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.packlist") root@Gentoo-1 / # qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pm") root@Gentoo-1 / # qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pod") root@Gentoo-1 / # qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pl") root@Gentoo-1 / # I ran equery b for some random ones before I posted the original thread.  It shows they belong to installed packages, perl mostly.  So, really, they are not orphans is my thinking.  I think it is more likely that something is confused.  Something got out of sync or something.  One thing I know for sure, I didn't install any of them by hand nor did I edit any of them.  If they really do belong to packages, what is the best way to force emerge to be aware of it?  I've already re-emerged it so that doesn't seem to do the job.  I thought about emerge -ek world but doubt that would help any either.  Any ideas?  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------42BAD24375D7BD2B24DD905C Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Michael wrote:
On Monday 10 February 2025 10:53:26 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote:


This is the perl I have installed. 


dev-lang/perl-5.40.0-r1:0/5.40


I'm not going to list all the stuff it spit out.  Just going to include
enough that you get the idea. 


 *     /usr/lib64/perl5/5.40/Parse/CPAN/Meta.pm
 *     /usr/lib64/perl5/5.40/Config/Perl/V.pm
 *     /usr/lib64/perl5/5.40/Config/Extensions.pm
...

These look legit files installed by portage for your perl 5.40 slot.  The 
message I received after perl-cleaner finished its job was:
=========================================
* GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
 *
 * It seems like perl-cleaner had to rebuild some packages.
 *

 * The following files remain. These were either installed by hand
 * or edited.

 *     /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.40/x86_64-linux/auto/Regexp/
IPv6/.packlist
 *     /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.40/x86_64-linux/auto/File/Temp/.packlist
 *     /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.40/x86_64-linux/auto/File/
Which/.packlist
 *     /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.40/x86_64-linux/auto/File/
chdir/.packlist
[snip ...]
===============

They are all listed under /usr/lib64/perl5/.  Say you want to check if these 
are really orphaned files no longer owned by any installed package, you can 
run:

~ $ qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.packlist")
~ $ 
~ $ qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pm")
~ $ 
~ $ qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pod")
~ $ 
~ $ qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pl")
~ $ 

and so on.  In my example above I did not discover any orphans.



They appear to be for the current installed versions.  That's one reason
it is kinda confusing.  o_O

I see what you mean, the message "... These were either installed by hand or 
edited" can be confusing, because all these perl5 files were installed by 
portage and perl was invariably brought in as a dependency by some other 
@system or @world package.


I ran the ones above just to get a general idea.  I got this. 


root@Gentoo-1 / # qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.packlist")
root@Gentoo-1 / # qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pm")
root@Gentoo-1 / # qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pod")
root@Gentoo-1 / # qfile -o $(find /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -name "*.pl")
root@Gentoo-1 / #


I ran equery b for some random ones before I posted the original thread.  It shows they belong to installed packages, perl mostly.  So, really, they are not orphans is my thinking.  I think it is more likely that something is confused.  Something got out of sync or something.  One thing I know for sure, I didn't install any of them by hand nor did I edit any of them. 

If they really do belong to packages, what is the best way to force emerge to be aware of it?  I've already re-emerged it so that doesn't seem to do the job.  I thought about emerge -ek world but doubt that would help any either. 

Any ideas? 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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