From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6266E158083 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 18:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C3EEE2B93; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 18:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from turkos.aspodata.se (turkos.aspodata.se [185.140.117.226]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFFBE2B8D for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 18:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from turkos.aspodata.se (localhost.aspodata.se [127.0.0.1]) by turkos.aspodata.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C2085C3A65 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 20:32:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: by turkos.aspodata.se (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4881785C3A66; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 20:32:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7+dev X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: inbox From: karl@aspodata.se To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: What is what (Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!) In-reply-to: <637ba6b3-98eb-4b03-8c42-0ac677e3d9a4@youngman.org.uk> References: <20240923225339.9088680C81B6@turkos.aspodata.se> <637ba6b3-98eb-4b03-8c42-0ac677e3d9a4@youngman.org.uk> Comments: In-reply-to Wols Lists message dated "Tue, 24 Sep 2024 08:10:04 +0100." Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20240924183234.4881785C3A66@turkos.aspodata.se> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 20:32:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Archives-Salt: 94e5ab38-5323-447e-a43c-450aaa65ec24 X-Archives-Hash: 6b9cc0a7b1e67880f9e08fc8c73f8d9c Wol: > On 23/09/2024 23:53, karl@aspodata.se wrote: > > It's just the pc hoard that thinks a server is some machine handling (that should be horde, not hoard even though it sounds funny...) > > databases, mail, files, printers or what > > In other words, X uses the words the other way round than most people - > what I said. > > Doesn't mean the majority are right! As far as I'm aware X got there > first, but is now swimming against the tide. It could be a case of one million flies cannot be wrong, shit is good.. but at the same time what people call a server is a machine running server programs, but the server itself is the program running. Without that program it is just a fancy box, I could use the very same box and use it as a desktop, and there is another false dicotomy, that there are desktops and servers, but the majority of all computers out ther are embedded. And many persons called (prior to laptops) the box a disk. So should computer words be defined by non-professionals or thoose who knows ? One effect of letting non-professionals define words is the case when the poeple handling the collection of television licences had the opinion the a computer is a television set and hence people with a computer should pay for the right to view television. So please stop spread misconcetions, or you might say, turn back the tide. Regards, /Karl Hammar