From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01ACF15808B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DF12E29E9; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost01b.ixn.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01b.ixn.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DF0DE29C0 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.69.80.10] (helo=cube.localnet) by smarthost01b.ixn.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1svGfc-00EMq2-NU for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:42:36 +0000 From: Peter Humphrey To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird oddity Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 14:42:36 +0100 Message-ID: <2764978.mvXUDI8C0e@cube> In-Reply-To: References: <2750508.mvXUDI8C0e@cube> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-smarthost01b-IP: [82.69.80.10] Feedback-ID: 82.69.80.10 X-Archives-Salt: 13b4cbbd-32d5-40ed-9ff4-768e681ccd96 X-Archives-Hash: c2bc1cbc7427bde840c35652d9ec175f On Monday 30 September 2024 11:00:09 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 03:20:06PM +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > > On Sunday 29 September 2024 13:03:04 BST Michael wrote: > > > On Sunday 29 September 2024 12:11:13 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > On Sunday 29 September 2024 10:08:36 BST Wols Lists wrote: > > > > > It's actually been like this a while - but my Thunderbird has lost > > > > > its > > > > > title bar. The top bars are the search bar, with the menu bar > > > > > underneath > > > > > it. So I have an "X" to close thunderbird with on the search bar, > > > > > but > > > > > that's it. The "v" and "^" to maximise and minimise aren't there > > > > > because > > > > > the bar they live on isn't there. > > > > >=20 > > > > > How do I get my bar back? -) > > > >=20 > > > > Firefox has been like that here for some months now. Either ALT-F3 = and > > > > move > > > > it, if that's what you want, or CRTL-Q and restart it somewhere els= e. > > >=20 > > > If you right click twice near the top edge of the window, then the > > > Plasma > > > window menu show up. From there you can select to minimise/maximise. > >=20 > > Yes, but why has FF shrugged off the standard presentation of a program > > window? And why is it allowed to get away with it? >=20 > It=E2=80=99s been doing this for very many a year in Windows already (I t= hink Chrome > started that trend), and also in Gnome everything =E2=80=9Chas to be=E2= =80=9D=E2=84=A2 a unified > window titlebar now. A main reason for avoiding Gnome: its adoption of the Windows attitude - we= =20 know what you need better than you do - go and sit quietly in the corner. =2D-=20 Regards, Peter.