From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 610D715802C for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A848E07EA; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw3.antarean.org (gw3.antarean.org [84.247.13.64]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77014E077A for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw3.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YCv3P0LxbzNnC8 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 14:02:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at antarean.org Received: from gw3.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gw3.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id D0dqvHFX3ueh for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 14:02:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailstore1.adm.antarean.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw3.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YCv3N6m5pzNkVs for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 14:02:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailstore1.adm.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YCv374kpbz17 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:02:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from mailstore1.adm.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailstore1.adm.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jVScV2_euF-D for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 12:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c52aeb976e0c (web2.adm.antarean.org [10.55.16.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailstore1.adm.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4YCtxM1vWzz15 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2024 12:57:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=antarean.org; s=default; t=1734526631; bh=YBOuVS/7lVjsb3VvAfD6BEGX3AuxvwuLrUCnc0pVdcw=; h=Date:Subject:From:To; b=Gzvk0HGKeaW/fOI/0mY37QXRoGA+OdhFf6Pd4yfk6zx/YY6+wCZjFFaDaugxy78x0 t9htK7GMWhYkEJRLyLK/NmVVT+sVatitxlHr9RCkTTDGJRl18yZl0iDrx9iq7qQ0so u6fNiVY77DvsUK8sHY7G9oFVxAh1gt/WYrgYYQqg= User-Agent: EGroupware API 23.1.005 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:57:06 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fun with systemd-boot Message-ID: <4a5d6ce8-42bb-4a9b-9445-d4d5c54f7ac7@antarean.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--_com.ninefolders.hd3.email_104099846169693_alt From: Joost Roeleveld X-Mailer: mail-Activesync To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: e0009c57-f598-45da-8020-811198c05d63 X-Archives-Hash: f91cdfdda21f5bf720c06276998f34d6 This message is in MIME format. ----_com.ninefolders.hd3.email_104099846169693_alt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Sorry for the top post. (Need to fix this mobile app) I have been using "refind" for my desktops and laptops. It works perfectly and even makes dualboot with non Linux simple. Sent from Nine ________________________________ From: Alan Mackenzie [acm@muc.de] Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2024 13:13 To: [gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org] Subject: [gentoo-user] Fun with systemd-boot Hello, Gentoo. I've been having fun with systemd-boot. On my new (2024-08) machine, on Friday 2024-12-06, I suddenly noticed that my /boot partition was empty, I can't remember why I looked at it. I am quite sure I didn't empty it myself. There then followed a couple of hours where I restored the boot manager, kernels, and the boot configuration. Thankfully, it booted again the next time I tried. On my old machine, I've been noticing over the past weeks that only two older kernels have been offered for booting, despite me installing later kernels to /boot/EFI/gentoo, and configuring them in /boot/loader. It all became clear yesterday and today. bootctl install had installed itself to /dev/nvme1n1p1 rather than /boot (which I have mounted on /dev/nvme0n1p1). Both of these partitions are EFI system partitions. It also clogged up my UEFI boot sequence with lots of extra entries, leaving nvme1 rather than nvme0 the prime EFI system partition for booting with. I've had a look at the manual page for bootctrl. It doesn't mention any way of specifying which EFI partition will get written to, and doesn't seem to mention that it changes the UEFI BIOS settings. Or maybe it does. It's a vague, poor quality manual. I don't need all this. Booting should not be fun. It should be boring, boring, boring. Boring and dependable. Could somebody perhaps suggest a better boot loader to me? I need to be able to chose between several kernels at booting time, but I certainly don't want something "refined" like grub - I just need what I thought systemd-boot actually was before yesterday. 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Sorry for the top post. (Need to fix this mobile app)

I have been using "refind" for my desktops and laptops. It work= s perfectly and even makes dualboot with non Linux simple.

Sent from Nine

From:= Alan Mackenzie [acm@muc.de]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2= 024 13:13
To: [gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org]
Subject: [gentoo-user] Fun with systemd-boot

<= div class=3D"nine-pg" dir=3D"auto">
Hell= o, Gentoo.

I've been having fun with systemd-boot.

On my new (2024-08) machine, on Friday 2024-12-06, I suddenly noticed<= /div>
that my /boot partition was empty,= I can't remember why I looked at it.
I am quite sure I didn't empty it myself. There then followed a couple=
of hours where I restored the boo= t manager, kernels, and the boot
c= onfiguration. Thankfully, it booted again the next time I tried.

On my old machine, I've been noticing over the past weeks that only tw= o
older kernels have been offered = for booting, despite me installing later
kernels to /boot/EFI/gentoo, and configuring them in /boot/loader.

It all became clear yesterday and today. bootctl install had = installed
itself to /dev/nvme1n1p1= rather than /boot (which I have mounted on
/dev/nvme0n1p1). Both of these partitions are EFI system partiti= ons. It
also clogged up my UEFI b= oot sequence with lots of extra entries, leaving
nvme1 rather than nvme0 the prime EFI system partition for b= ooting with.

I've had a look at the manual page for bootctrl.= It doesn't mention any
way of sp= ecifying which EFI partition will get written to, and doesn't
seem to mention that it changes the UEFI BIOS s= ettings. Or maybe it
does. It's = a vague, poor quality manual.

I don't need all this. Booting= should not be fun. It should be boring,
boring, boring. Boring and dependable.

Could someb= ody perhaps suggest a better boot loader to me? I need to be
able to chose between several kernels at bootin= g time, but I certainly
don't want= something "refined" like grub - I just need what I thought
systemd-boot actually was before yesterday.
=

Thanks in advance!

--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

 
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