From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA8CA158083 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 10:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 512712BC0B8; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 10:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x135.google.com (mail-lf1-x135.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::135]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B32222BC03C for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 10:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x135.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-5365a9574b6so7468018e87.1 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 03:05:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1727172319; x=1727777119; darn=lists.gentoo.org; h=references:subject:in-reply-to:cc:to:date:from:message-id:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=bU3ODir+Vky6M0Sn0kxEao/exQ0qsiqsc9XY4YfJCE0=; b=J/RCF0657xEZXn0l3eDWmNfzk3oLez7zq+UFpx8y6My20EcA5hk38Sdi8w3UahSqGG RoawUsgZmKTcsmgKJI225CkM8EPO583+G9oqusDukXD5trK16UixSFsywTiCt0bEfdsT UaXnRFMoEnkIwRNu9VsT8yehnDUEIPZhnYlNe528y0xXwfgOcYMlO1BpWCRyvXqHkTg/ IYLr89gghrVoX0jDcwuB465A5Xb7xa7bdCVB5wGncoHeXta44e9q50Ku3JBpjDIEe6Kx 83djl7UQOtmhtAbiy812hz7PU6k98gpZqoheDt6IaXWcmh1ZUmUi1ENFSrb0mKBCY3Nl 5ASg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1727172319; x=1727777119; h=references:subject:in-reply-to:cc:to:date:from:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=bU3ODir+Vky6M0Sn0kxEao/exQ0qsiqsc9XY4YfJCE0=; b=i3jt0B+uFMfMe2Cb1qPfBtpk8GwDAhoOu3+A1mvQuvcZB7VfZORgqHjQ2Rx9D+UMFJ vTuFXbH6ouLiBT/vikv38/kaJnJv+k0IGLvkkkysa4LNou+tgtIZFtaGR0SkX1wbIwhA u5u658sQ3olr/0Vo19RIECjKYfC0fdX//xxAJIFeC5sCG5OrmQY4JVw0HHKeYNCnk00O ZajasajLCpvFXDi8u0HAmbExSv74/jaUgo7ZaKCFDaWJrKD4TgKn3SFcp0uu19wNjO52 dhSq9GfYGHaaBgbkT4DRjWTyaOkbubDcbyYS1szoEjOyaWA1X4mSElyZaQ7ec8oaIMbd XRYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzvq5/IAHcLHaVX7UiVpBfGwD0rNhhR/Uqe/alEcthlFUx9G91j bm356N8Y4Kl6IeMWY+6kw9sFrXrVCw7CBsrjK+htCCFhYPUbHaHc88ChVg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEiGVdlaotDnEaNoeOb9wEzdgRq0GbxQf9K246W/5d/ew2m2TpG4rgPOyH24CULB/lg1mnV3A== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3048:b0:533:4785:82ab with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-536ac2d6a6bmr9103817e87.1.1727172318740; Tue, 24 Sep 2024 03:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tux ([2a02:810b:1220:efc:a91c:275f:ce4a:9925]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-a9392f51e82sm65720066b.71.2024.09.24.03.05.17 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 24 Sep 2024 03:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <66f28ede.170a0220.164847.23dc@mx.google.com> From: Dr Rainer Woitok X-Google-Original-From: Dr Rainer Woitok Received: by tux (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 24 Sep 2024 12:05:16 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 12:05:16 +0200 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Alan Mackenzie In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:08:56 +0000) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of! References: <65e5de50-e053-46ff-be61-52f472d95025@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply X-Archives-Salt: ad440562-d253-4c96-81de-204011a93397 X-Archives-Hash: 427bf08508d13ce2e31b29a4b6c3a76d Alan, On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 22:08:56 +0000 you wrote: > ... > For example, emerge > --depclean on my system wants to unmerge openrc. Not a deliberate move > by the developers, just some accident. But it's the reason I don't do > emerge --depclean, ever. No, that's not some accident. As Eli already pointed out this can only happen, if you have at least one more dependency of package "virtual/ service-manager" installed. And if really no package on your system re- quires package "sys-apps/openrc" but YOU want that package, YOU are the instance which must require it by simply adding it to "@world". Not ever running "emerge --depclean" may have the tendency of collecting bloat packages on your rig, packages you neither need nor want. So I would suggest running "emerge --ask --depclean" on a regular basis and thoroughly checking the output before answering "yes". Sincerely, Rainer