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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 09:45:15 +0100 Message-ID: <7719600.EvYhyI6sBW@rogueboard> In-Reply-To: <17e6b499-e2e5-13f0-6d04-8651653a6596@gmail.com> References: <6a1bf73e-d7ab-e9ea-20ea-e174190b300c@gmail.com> <2bb23e23-516f-4199-8a90-05676341cf52@youngman.org.uk> <17e6b499-e2e5-13f0-6d04-8651653a6596@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3836923.kQq0lBPeGt"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-PPP-Message-ID: <172794513530.1527660.1033198297691440104@cloud238.thundercloud.uk> X-PPP-Vhost: kintzios.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C7E441E0008 X-Rspamd-Server: mailclean11 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.61 / 999.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[kintzios.com,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FUZZY_BLOCKED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34931, ipnet:149.255.60.0/22, country:GB]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM(-0.00)[-0.989]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[confabulate@kintzios.com] X-Rspamd-Action: no action X-Archives-Salt: 61577076-afe6-416d-a9e5-4c5bbb4b94a2 X-Archives-Hash: 47a17fc081ff3d0db910c44f9aad4fa2 --nextPart3836923.kQq0lBPeGt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: confabulate@kintzios.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service? Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 09:45:15 +0100 Message-ID: <7719600.EvYhyI6sBW@rogueboard> In-Reply-To: <17e6b499-e2e5-13f0-6d04-8651653a6596@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 On Thursday 3 October 2024 05:30:58 BST Dale wrote: > Wol wrote: > > On 02/10/2024 19:47, Dale wrote: > >> Well, I'm not really wanting to do my own email server. In a way, > >> I'd like to have it so that everything is fetched, stored on my > >> system and then I can use any email software I want, Seamonkey, > >> Thunderbird, Mutt, Kmail or whatever, without losing a single email. > >> Thing is, even that sounds like more than I care to chew on. If > >> someone would share configs, editing private info of course, and I > >> could just drop those in and edit with my private info, I might > >> consider it. Thing is, I'm nervous about doing even that. Be my > >> luck, I'd screw up something and delete every email I've ever got. > >> > >> :/ It would be nice tho to have a program fetch my emails and then > >> > >> I can switch email software anytime without losing anything at all. > > > > This is my setup. > > > > I think I've talked about this before, but just emerge and set up > > dovecot. > > > > Make sure you set everything up in the local config file - look at the > > global file that comes with dovecot, and at the end you'll see a > > pointer to a non-existent local file. Set that up, and then make sure > > your email client can see it. Move a couple of emails across and make > > sure they're safe in dovecot. > > > > Then you just set up a rule on your internet provider's inbox, that > > moves emails across to dovecot, and everything is local on your > > system. Obviously, they'll stay on the internet provider's setup until > > they expire, but they're on your system, they can be backed up, and > > they'll not be on the internet to be mined or broken into or whatever > > for long. > > > > Cheers, > > Wol > > I think we tried this and I couldn't get it to work and gave up on it. > It's been a while back tho. From my understanding, it is supposed to be > simple but simple doesn't always mean I can do it. LOL Email providers > always changing things doesn't help either. > > Would this also work if I moved to Proton or something similar? > > Dale > > :-) :-) Do you need to have a local email storage *in addition* to the desktop email client downloading and storing your messages, if you are going to pay for a service provider to do the same thing for you? If yes, then dovecot is a good option - there's a page on the wiki with configuration details. --nextPart3836923.kQq0lBPeGt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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