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From: Wol <antlists@youngman.org.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 23:08:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8f1b3b69-c08c-4024-b359-ddfa24760a29@youngman.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZrJr5Se91knXrUjz@ACM>

On 06/08/2024 19:31, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> So, is it possible in Wayland to record a configuration of windows,
> their sizes and positions, then restore these on starting a program
> again?  If not, that would appear to be a design bug in Wayland.  What
> am I missing?

That - unlike X - is because windows cannot say where they are going to 
go. They can *ask* where they want to go, which isn't the same thing.

Iirc, X behaves like Windows, which means applications can *seize* 
focus, which drives me up the wall on occasion at work. I'll have an 
Excel macro running, which takes maybe 3 or 4 minutes. So I go into 
let's say Slack. Excel triggers something (google drive?) which grabs 
focus and disappears, so all of a sudden I *think* I'm gaily typing into 
Slack. But focus has been stolen and I'm typing into a vacuum - 
EXTREMELY frustrating, especially as I don't actually know what's going on.

In Wayland, you can't steal focus. But as a side effect, it's Wayland 
that controls the window, not the application. So Wayland is more 
secure, but that comes with unavoidable side effects that you don't like...

Cheers,
Wol


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-06 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-05 16:30 [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland Daniel Frey
2024-08-05 16:42 ` Waldo Lemmer
2024-08-05 22:56   ` Daniel Frey
2024-08-06  8:29     ` [Possible phishing attempt] " byte.size226
2024-08-06  9:17       ` Michael
2024-08-05 16:58 ` Wols Lists
2024-08-05 22:56   ` Daniel Frey
2024-08-06 13:57     ` Michael
2024-08-06 14:03   ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-08-07  9:04   ` Matt Jolly
2024-08-07 10:11     ` Michael
2024-08-06  0:17 ` Dale
2024-08-06  6:00 ` J. Aho
2024-08-06 13:56   ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-08-06 14:13     ` Daniel Frey
2024-08-06 21:28       ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-08-06 18:31     ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-08-06 22:08       ` Wol [this message]
2024-08-07 13:53         ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-08-07 18:33           ` Wol
2024-08-06 22:10       ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-08-06 20:34     ` J. Aho
2024-08-06 21:40       ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-08-06 22:16         ` Wol
2024-08-06 10:30 ` Michael
2024-08-06 14:01 ` Arsen Arsenović

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