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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4c2ced05-b179-4fc6-a971-39c62342b5bb@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 17ff9534-e29e-4895-9170-461977d5e234 X-Archives-Hash: 5376922b63f2f6aecd17393ba393893b ralfconn wrote: > Il 31/08/24 19:55, Michael ha scritto: >> On Saturday, 31 August 2024 18:37:06 BST ralfconn wrote: >> >>> I did not have success making the mail client (thunderbird in my case) >>> read from a local mailbox so I ended up configuring the MTA >>> (nullmailer) >>> to forward the messages produced by my local daemons or shell >>> scripts to >>> one of the external mail servers I already used for thunderbird. >> >> Probably not relevant to the OP, but did you try to configure T'bird >> to look >> at a local folder where your mail was stored (you'll probably need >> T'bird's >> movemail for this): >> >> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1341209 >> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1718795 >> >> I've been able to access local mail storage with mutt and with Kmail >> - but >> have not tried T'bird. > > I've finally had a chance to look at movemail in TB, seems it was > removed approximately 7 years ago [1]. Somebody posted a possible > workaround [2] but I'm not going that way. 2 years ago there was the > intention to restore it but I see no activity on that bug. > > Funny, [4] suggests going back to seamonkey for movemail support. I > once was a happy seamonkey user then switched to FF/TB because SM > seemed unmaintained, but from the website it looks like it's still > alive and kicking. > > raf > > [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1625741 > [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1625741#c35 > [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1802145 > [4] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1625741#c81 > > I think Seamonkey mostly gets bug fixes and updates so that it compiles with new tools and works with newer software.  I don't think it gets much else.  I am constantly running into sites that don't work right or even load with Seamonkey but work fine with Firefox.  Some may recall the massive Firefox rewrite a few years ago.  Once Firefox got the kinks worked out, it was a huge improvement.  Also, add-ons were redone as well.  Seamonkey needs to do the same because there are few add-ons that work with Seamonkey now.  You have to use the old add-ons, if you can find them, to use anything and almost none of them get updated.  As a example, I switched from Lastpass to Bitwarden.  I have to use Lastpass on any site I want to access that uses passwords because Bitwarden doesn't have a up to date add-on for Seamonkey.  Lastpass doesn't either.  It's still stuck on the last version since Firefox did it's rewrite and add-on change.  Yea, no security updates either.  Basically, the only reason I still have Lastpass, it was already installed.  If I were to remove Lastpass, I may not be able to get it back.  If it stopped working, it would be dead.  There is no update for it in Seamonkey.  In my opinion, Seamonkey is slowly dying unless enough people step up and update it to work like Firefox, including add-ons, and is coded in a way that websites work like Firefox does.  I mostly use it for the email part and would like to switch but I don't like Thunderbird to much.  Links is my biggest problem.  If I click on a link, it wants to open a new instance of Firefox instead of asking me which instance I want to open in with a new tab.  As I type, I have four instances of Firefox open.  Each one had a different set of add-ons installed and are used for different tasks.  When I click on a link, I just need it to open in a new tab and ask me where to do it.  If anyone were to ask me if they should start using Seamonkey, I'd say no.  It worries me that at some point, it isn't even going to work well enough just for the email part.  That is about the only part of it that really works OK.  For web browsing, it's Firefox for 99% of things I do here.  As it is, I have to copy links in Seamonkey email and then paste the link in a new tab in Firefox on occasion.  It's annoying.  Dale :-)  :-)