[gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[Jacques Montier]

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Hello all,

For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on
/run/media/<user>
Those disks are successfully detected.
- dmesg :
   20.711135] usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058,
idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34
[   20.711144] usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=3
[   20.711147] usb 10-2: Product: Elements 2621
[   20.711150] usb 10-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital
[   20.711152] usb 10-2: SerialNumber: 575837324139315041324831
[   20.712935] usb-storage 10-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[   20.713081] scsi host14: usb-storage 10-2:1.0
[   21.740964] scsi 14:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       Elements 2621
 1034 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[   21.741163] sd 14:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
[   21.743671] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Spinning up disk...
[   22.764230] ....ready
[   25.936769] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00
TB/1.82 TiB)
[   25.937331] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
[   25.937337] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
[   25.937831] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] No Caching mode page found
[   25.937836] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through
[   25.939868]  sde: sde1

- Some errors by journalctl (attached file)

juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux udisksd[1178]: Error probing device: Error
sending ATA command IDENTIFY DEVICE to '/dev/sde': Unexpected>
                                             0000: f0 00 01 00  00 00 00 0a
 00 00 00 00  00 1d 00 00    ................
                                             0010: 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00    ................
                                              (g-io-error-quark, 0)

- I can manually mount them without any issue.

- USB sticks successfully mount.

- No problem with Linux Mint OS 23.1

Any idea ?

Thanks in advance,

Cheers,

--
Jacques

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juil. 31 11:20:51 GentooLinux kernel: (udev-worker) (580) used greatest stack depth: 10352 bytes left
juil. 31 11:20:55 GentooLinux kernel: usb 10-2: new SuperSpeed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
juil. 31 11:20:55 GentooLinux kernel: usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34
juil. 31 11:20:55 GentooLinux kernel: usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
juil. 31 11:20:55 GentooLinux kernel: usb 10-2: Product: Elements 2621
juil. 31 11:20:55 GentooLinux kernel: usb 10-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital
juil. 31 11:20:55 GentooLinux kernel: usb 10-2: SerialNumber: 575837324139315041324831
juil. 31 11:20:55 GentooLinux kernel: usb-storage 10-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
juil. 31 11:20:55 GentooLinux kernel: scsi host14: usb-storage 10-2:1.0
juil. 31 11:20:56 GentooLinux kernel: scsi 14:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       Elements 2621    1034 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Spinning up disk...
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel: ....ready
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00 TB/1.82 TiB)
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] No Caching mode page found
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel:  sde: sde1
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Attached SCSI disk
juil. 31 11:20:57 GentooLinux systemd[1]: NetworkManager-dispatcher.service: Deactivated successfully.
juil. 31 11:20:58 GentooLinux systemd[1]: proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.automount: Got automount request for /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc, trigg>
juil. 31 11:20:58 GentooLinux systemd[1]: Mounting Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System...
juil. 31 11:20:58 GentooLinux systemd[1]: Mounted Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System.
juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux udisksd[1178]: Error probing device: Error sending ATA command IDENTIFY DEVICE to '/dev/sde': Unexpected>
                                             0000: f0 00 01 00  00 00 00 0a  00 00 00 00  00 1d 00 00    ................
                                             0010: 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00    ................
                                              (g-io-error-quark, 0)

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[Michael]

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On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on
> /run/media/<user>

Have you changed your PC, USB port/hub, kernel or your udisks version, before 
you noticed this?

If you observed this on a laptop, does it happen when mains power is on?


> Those disks are successfully detected.
> - dmesg :
>    20.711135] usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058,
> idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34
> [   20.711144] usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> SerialNumber=3
> [   20.711147] usb 10-2: Product: Elements 2621
> [   20.711150] usb 10-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital
> [   20.711152] usb 10-2: SerialNumber: 575837324139315041324831
> [   20.712935] usb-storage 10-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
> [   20.713081] scsi host14: usb-storage 10-2:1.0
> [   21.740964] scsi 14:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       Elements 2621
>  1034 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
> [   21.741163] sd 14:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
> [   21.743671] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Spinning up disk...
> [   22.764230] ....ready
> [   25.936769] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00
> TB/1.82 TiB)
> [   25.937331] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
> [   25.937337] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
> [   25.937831] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] No Caching mode page found
> [   25.937836] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through
> [   25.939868]  sde: sde1
> 
> - Some errors by journalctl (attached file)
> 
> juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux udisksd[1178]: Error probing device: Error
> sending ATA command IDENTIFY DEVICE to '/dev/sde': Unexpected>
>                                              0000: f0 00 01 00  00 00 00 0a
>  00 00 00 00  00 1d 00 00    ................
>                                              0010: 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
>  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00    ................
>                                               (g-io-error-quark, 0)
> 
> - I can manually mount them without any issue.
> 
> - USB sticks successfully mount.
> 
> - No problem with Linux Mint OS 23.1
> 
> Any idea ?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --
> Jacques

It often happens external USB drives need enough power to start up fully, 
before their onboard controller responds to probes from udisksd.  If something 
(from PSU, to battery power, to kernel/desktop power management options) has 
changed, to the point where the power on the USB port becomes marginal, then 
such symptoms are possible.

Things you could try:

1. Try a different USB port, ideally USB 3.0 or later version e.g. USB 3.2 
Gen2, which can provide more power.

2. Use a powered USB Hub between the PC and the drive, or a Y-shaped USB cable 
to feed the drive from two ports.

3. If on a laptop, use mains power (esp. in the summer when the cooling fan 
may be demanding more from the battery).

4. Remove other consumables from USB ports sharing the same bus.

5. Do not set your desktop to auto-mount USBs when you plug in, but only when 
you manually click on it in your GUI.


Anecdotal observation:  I have a WD Elements drive which I connect through an 
external powered hub on a USB 2.0 port on the PC.  Even though the hub is 
powered, I have to power it up first, wait a few seconds for the drive to come 
up to speed (the LED flashing slows down), before I boot the PC.  Otherwise 
it's a hit or miss affair for the PC to detect it.  This got worse after some 
months/years, although the drive itself has seen relatively little use.



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Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[Jacques Montier]

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Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 16:49, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a écrit :

> On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on
> > /run/media/<user>
>
> Have you changed your PC, USB port/hub, kernel or your udisks version,
> before
> you noticed this?
>
> If you observed this on a laptop, does it happen when mains power is on?
>
>
> > Those disks are successfully detected.
> > - dmesg :
> >    20.711135] usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058,
> > idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34
> > [   20.711144] usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> > SerialNumber=3
> > [   20.711147] usb 10-2: Product: Elements 2621
> > [   20.711150] usb 10-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital
> > [   20.711152] usb 10-2: SerialNumber: 575837324139315041324831
> > [   20.712935] usb-storage 10-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
> > [   20.713081] scsi host14: usb-storage 10-2:1.0
> > [   21.740964] scsi 14:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       Elements 2621
> >  1034 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
> > [   21.741163] sd 14:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
> > [   21.743671] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Spinning up disk...
> > [   22.764230] ....ready
> > [   25.936769] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks:
> (2.00
> > TB/1.82 TiB)
> > [   25.937331] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
> > [   25.937337] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
> > [   25.937831] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] No Caching mode page found
> > [   25.937836] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > [   25.939868]  sde: sde1
> >
> > - Some errors by journalctl (attached file)
> >
> > juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux udisksd[1178]: Error probing device: Error
> > sending ATA command IDENTIFY DEVICE to '/dev/sde': Unexpected>
> >                                              0000: f0 00 01 00  00 00 00
> 0a
> >  00 00 00 00  00 1d 00 00    ................
> >                                              0010: 00 00 00 00  00 00 00
> 00
> >  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00    ................
> >                                               (g-io-error-quark, 0)
> >
> > - I can manually mount them without any issue.
> >
> > - USB sticks successfully mount.
> >
> > - No problem with Linux Mint OS 23.1
> >
> > Any idea ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Jacques
>
> It often happens external USB drives need enough power to start up fully,
> before their onboard controller responds to probes from udisksd.  If
> something
> (from PSU, to battery power, to kernel/desktop power management options)
> has
> changed, to the point where the power on the USB port becomes marginal,
> then
> such symptoms are possible.
>
> Things you could try:
>
> 1. Try a different USB port, ideally USB 3.0 or later version e.g. USB 3.2
> Gen2, which can provide more power.
>
> 2. Use a powered USB Hub between the PC and the drive, or a Y-shaped USB
> cable
> to feed the drive from two ports.
>
> 3. If on a laptop, use mains power (esp. in the summer when the cooling
> fan
> may be demanding more from the battery).
>
> 4. Remove other consumables from USB ports sharing the same bus.
>
> 5. Do not set your desktop to auto-mount USBs when you plug in, but only
> when
> you manually click on it in your GUI.
>
>
> Anecdotal observation:  I have a WD Elements drive which I connect through
> an
> external powered hub on a USB 2.0 port on the PC.  Even though the hub is
> powered, I have to power it up first, wait a few seconds for the drive to
> come
> up to speed (the LED flashing slows down), before I boot the PC.
> Otherwise
> it's a hit or miss affair for the PC to detect it.  This got worse after
> some
> months/years, although the drive itself has seen relatively little use.
>
>
>
Thank you Michael,

It's a desktop PC working with cinnamon 6.
I tried KDE Plasma (wayland or X11) and it works !
So, maybe  a cinnamon-6.0.4 issue ?

Cheers,

Jacques

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Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[Michael]

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On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 17:37:17 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 16:49, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a écrit :
> > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > > 
> > > For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on
> > > /run/media/<user>
> > 
> > Have you changed your PC, USB port/hub, kernel or your udisks version,
> > before
> > you noticed this?
> > 
> > If you observed this on a laptop, does it happen when mains power is on?
> > 
> > > Those disks are successfully detected.
> > > 
> > > - dmesg :
> > >    20.711135] usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058,
> > > 
> > > idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34
> > > [   20.711144] usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> > > SerialNumber=3
> > > [   20.711147] usb 10-2: Product: Elements 2621
> > > [   20.711150] usb 10-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital
> > > [   20.711152] usb 10-2: SerialNumber: 575837324139315041324831
> > > [   20.712935] usb-storage 10-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
> > > [   20.713081] scsi host14: usb-storage 10-2:1.0
> > > [   21.740964] scsi 14:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       Elements 2621
> > > 
> > >  1034 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
> > > 
> > > [   21.741163] sd 14:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
> > > [   21.743671] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Spinning up disk...
> > > [   22.764230] ....ready
> > 
> > > [   25.936769] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks:
> > (2.00
> > 
> > > TB/1.82 TiB)
> > > [   25.937331] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
> > > [   25.937337] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
> > > [   25.937831] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] No Caching mode page found
> > > [   25.937836] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > > [   25.939868]  sde: sde1
> > > 
> > > - Some errors by journalctl (attached file)
> > > 
> > > juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux udisksd[1178]: Error probing device: Error
> > > sending ATA command IDENTIFY DEVICE to '/dev/sde': Unexpected>
> > > 
> > >                                              0000: f0 00 01 00  00 00 00
> > 
> > 0a
> > 
> > >  00 00 00 00  00 1d 00 00    ................
> > >  
> > >                                              0010: 00 00 00 00  00 00 00
> > 
> > 00
> > 
> > >  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00    ................
> > >  
> > >                                               (g-io-error-quark, 0)
> > > 
> > > - I can manually mount them without any issue.
> > > 
> > > - USB sticks successfully mount.
> > > 
> > > - No problem with Linux Mint OS 23.1
> > > 
> > > Any idea ?
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Jacques
> > 
> > It often happens external USB drives need enough power to start up fully,
> > before their onboard controller responds to probes from udisksd.  If
> > something
> > (from PSU, to battery power, to kernel/desktop power management options)
> > has
> > changed, to the point where the power on the USB port becomes marginal,
> > then
> > such symptoms are possible.
> > 
> > Things you could try:
> > 
> > 1. Try a different USB port, ideally USB 3.0 or later version e.g. USB 3.2
> > Gen2, which can provide more power.
> > 
> > 2. Use a powered USB Hub between the PC and the drive, or a Y-shaped USB
> > cable
> > to feed the drive from two ports.
> > 
> > 3. If on a laptop, use mains power (esp. in the summer when the cooling
> > fan
> > may be demanding more from the battery).
> > 
> > 4. Remove other consumables from USB ports sharing the same bus.
> > 
> > 5. Do not set your desktop to auto-mount USBs when you plug in, but only
> > when
> > you manually click on it in your GUI.
> > 
> > 
> > Anecdotal observation:  I have a WD Elements drive which I connect through
> > an
> > external powered hub on a USB 2.0 port on the PC.  Even though the hub is
> > powered, I have to power it up first, wait a few seconds for the drive to
> > come
> > up to speed (the LED flashing slows down), before I boot the PC.
> > Otherwise
> > it's a hit or miss affair for the PC to detect it.  This got worse after
> > some
> > months/years, although the drive itself has seen relatively little use.
> 
> Thank you Michael,
> 
> It's a desktop PC working with cinnamon 6.
> I tried KDE Plasma (wayland or X11) and it works !
> So, maybe  a cinnamon-6.0.4 issue ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jacques

Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of the 
desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome settings.  Play around with the auto-
mount USB drive options, to see if it corrects itself.

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Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[Jacques Montier]

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Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a écrit :

> On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 17:37:17 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 16:49, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a
> écrit :
> > > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount
> on
> > > > /run/media/<user>
> > >
> > > Have you changed your PC, USB port/hub, kernel or your udisks version,
> > > before
> > > you noticed this?
> > >
> > > If you observed this on a laptop, does it happen when mains power is
> on?
> > >
> > > > Those disks are successfully detected.
> > > >
> > > > - dmesg :
> > > >    20.711135] usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058,
> > > >
> > > > idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34
> > > > [   20.711144] usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> > > > SerialNumber=3
> > > > [   20.711147] usb 10-2: Product: Elements 2621
> > > > [   20.711150] usb 10-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital
> > > > [   20.711152] usb 10-2: SerialNumber: 575837324139315041324831
> > > > [   20.712935] usb-storage 10-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
> > > > [   20.713081] scsi host14: usb-storage 10-2:1.0
> > > > [   21.740964] scsi 14:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       Elements
> 2621
> > > >
> > > >  1034 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
> > > >
> > > > [   21.741163] sd 14:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
> > > > [   21.743671] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Spinning up disk...
> > > > [   22.764230] ....ready
> > >
> > > > [   25.936769] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks:
> > > (2.00
> > >
> > > > TB/1.82 TiB)
> > > > [   25.937331] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
> > > > [   25.937337] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
> > > > [   25.937831] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] No Caching mode page found
> > > > [   25.937836] sd 14:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > > > [   25.939868]  sde: sde1
> > > >
> > > > - Some errors by journalctl (attached file)
> > > >
> > > > juil. 31 11:21:00 GentooLinux udisksd[1178]: Error probing device:
> Error
> > > > sending ATA command IDENTIFY DEVICE to '/dev/sde': Unexpected>
> > > >
> > > >                                              0000: f0 00 01 00  00
> 00 00
> > >
> > > 0a
> > >
> > > >  00 00 00 00  00 1d 00 00    ................
> > > >
> > > >                                              0010: 00 00 00 00  00
> 00 00
> > >
> > > 00
> > >
> > > >  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00    ................
> > > >
> > > >                                               (g-io-error-quark, 0)
> > > >
> > > > - I can manually mount them without any issue.
> > > >
> > > > - USB sticks successfully mount.
> > > >
> > > > - No problem with Linux Mint OS 23.1
> > > >
> > > > Any idea ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jacques
> > >
> > > It often happens external USB drives need enough power to start up
> fully,
> > > before their onboard controller responds to probes from udisksd.  If
> > > something
> > > (from PSU, to battery power, to kernel/desktop power management
> options)
> > > has
> > > changed, to the point where the power on the USB port becomes marginal,
> > > then
> > > such symptoms are possible.
> > >
> > > Things you could try:
> > >
> > > 1. Try a different USB port, ideally USB 3.0 or later version e.g. USB
> 3.2
> > > Gen2, which can provide more power.
> > >
> > > 2. Use a powered USB Hub between the PC and the drive, or a Y-shaped
> USB
> > > cable
> > > to feed the drive from two ports.
> > >
> > > 3. If on a laptop, use mains power (esp. in the summer when the cooling
> > > fan
> > > may be demanding more from the battery).
> > >
> > > 4. Remove other consumables from USB ports sharing the same bus.
> > >
> > > 5. Do not set your desktop to auto-mount USBs when you plug in, but
> only
> > > when
> > > you manually click on it in your GUI.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anecdotal observation:  I have a WD Elements drive which I connect
> through
> > > an
> > > external powered hub on a USB 2.0 port on the PC.  Even though the hub
> is
> > > powered, I have to power it up first, wait a few seconds for the drive
> to
> > > come
> > > up to speed (the LED flashing slows down), before I boot the PC.
> > > Otherwise
> > > it's a hit or miss affair for the PC to detect it.  This got worse
> after
> > > some
> > > months/years, although the drive itself has seen relatively little use.
> >
> > Thank you Michael,
> >
> > It's a desktop PC working with cinnamon 6.
> > I tried KDE Plasma (wayland or X11) and it works !
> > So, maybe  a cinnamon-6.0.4 issue ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jacques
>
> Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of the
> desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome settings.  Play around with the
> auto-
> mount USB drive options, to see if it corrects itself.



Thanks Michael,

I did not understand why an usb stick was automounted and not WD usb drive.
I saw the one was fat32 formatted and WD ext4.
So, i formatted fat32 another empty WD drive and it worked !
Last version of cinnamon could not automount ext4 drive ? That's weird.

Well, it's not so important and in can deal with it.

Cheers,

Jacques

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Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[Michael]

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On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a écrit :

> > Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of the
> > desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome settings.  Play around with the
> > auto-
> > mount USB drive options, to see if it corrects itself.
> 
> Thanks Michael,
> 
> I did not understand why an usb stick was automounted and not WD usb drive.
> I saw the one was fat32 formatted and WD ext4.
> So, i formatted fat32 another empty WD drive and it worked !
> Last version of cinnamon could not automount ext4 drive ? That's weird.
> 
> Well, it's not so important and in can deal with it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jacques

Unlike ext4, the FAT filesystem does not support Unix file permissions so 
accessing the fs via userspace is more restricted than FAT.  However, I would 
expect a different error, like "wrong filesystem type ...".

What do you get in your logs when your run:

~ $ udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdXx

where Xx are the device and partition numbers?

Is it possible the owner/access rights of the ext4 fs has changed between the 
time when it worked and now?

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Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[Jacques Montier]

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Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 13:39, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a écrit :

> On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a
> écrit :
>
> > > Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of the
> > > desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome settings.  Play around with the
> > > auto-
> > > mount USB drive options, to see if it corrects itself.
> >
> > Thanks Michael,
> >
> > I did not understand why an usb stick was automounted and not WD usb
> drive.
> > I saw the one was fat32 formatted and WD ext4.
> > So, i formatted fat32 another empty WD drive and it worked !
> > Last version of cinnamon could not automount ext4 drive ? That's weird.
> >
> > Well, it's not so important and in can deal with it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jacques
>
> Unlike ext4, the FAT filesystem does not support Unix file permissions so
> accessing the fs via userspace is more restricted than FAT.  However, I
> would
> expect a different error, like "wrong filesystem type ...".
>
> What do you get in your logs when your run:
>
> ~ $ udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdXx
>
> where Xx are the device and partition numbers?
>
>
I get this :

My external usb disk is labelled SAUVEGARDE.

$ udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdf1
Mounted /dev/sdf1 at /run/media/jacques/SAUVEGARDE

$ dmesg
[ 1003.189856] usb 10-2: new SuperSpeed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd
[ 1003.205671] usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058,
idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34
[ 1003.205682] usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=3
[ 1003.205688] usb 10-2: Product: Elements 2621
[ 1003.205709] usb 10-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital
[ 1003.205714] usb 10-2: SerialNumber: 575837324139315041324831
[ 1003.207086] usb-storage 10-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[ 1003.207196] scsi host15: usb-storage 10-2:1.0
[ 1004.268434] scsi 15:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       Elements 2621
 1034 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[ 1004.268645] sd 15:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg7 type 0
[ 1004.271067] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Spinning up disk...
[ 1005.291638] ....ready
[ 1008.461012] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00
TB/1.82 TiB)
[ 1008.461494] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Write Protect is off
[ 1008.461502] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
[ 1008.462001] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] No Caching mode page found
[ 1008.462009] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 1008.464128]  sdf: sdf1
[ 1008.464219] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Attached SCSI disk
[ 1023.783260] EXT4-fs (sdf1): mounted filesystem
e26e8fef-8c48-4ad3-8258-10cb8fb47f81 r/w with ordered data mode. Quota
mode: none.


Is it possible the owner/access rights of the ext4 fs has changed between
> the
> time when it worked and now?
>

Well, i really don't know...

--
Jacques

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Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[Michael]

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On Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:38:33 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 13:39, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a écrit :
> > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a
> > 
> > écrit :
> > > > Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of
> > > > the
> > > > desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome settings.  Play around with
> > > > the
> > > > auto-
> > > > mount USB drive options, to see if it corrects itself.
> > > 
> > > Thanks Michael,
> > > 
> > > I did not understand why an usb stick was automounted and not WD usb
> > 
> > drive.
> > 
> > > I saw the one was fat32 formatted and WD ext4.
> > > So, i formatted fat32 another empty WD drive and it worked !
> > > Last version of cinnamon could not automount ext4 drive ? That's weird.
> > > 
> > > Well, it's not so important and in can deal with it.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Jacques
> > 
> > Unlike ext4, the FAT filesystem does not support Unix file permissions so
> > accessing the fs via userspace is more restricted than FAT.  However, I
> > would
> > expect a different error, like "wrong filesystem type ...".
> > 
> > What do you get in your logs when your run:
> > 
> > ~ $ udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdXx
> > 
> > where Xx are the device and partition numbers?
> 
> I get this :
> 
> My external usb disk is labelled SAUVEGARDE.
> 
> $ udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdf1
> Mounted /dev/sdf1 at /run/media/jacques/SAUVEGARDE
> 
> $ dmesg
> [ 1003.189856] usb 10-2: new SuperSpeed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd
> [ 1003.205671] usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058,
> idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34
> [ 1003.205682] usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> SerialNumber=3
> [ 1003.205688] usb 10-2: Product: Elements 2621
> [ 1003.205709] usb 10-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital
> [ 1003.205714] usb 10-2: SerialNumber: 575837324139315041324831
> [ 1003.207086] usb-storage 10-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
> [ 1003.207196] scsi host15: usb-storage 10-2:1.0
> [ 1004.268434] scsi 15:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       Elements 2621
>  1034 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
> [ 1004.268645] sd 15:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg7 type 0
> [ 1004.271067] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Spinning up disk...
> [ 1005.291638] ....ready
> [ 1008.461012] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00
> TB/1.82 TiB)
> [ 1008.461494] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Write Protect is off
> [ 1008.461502] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
> [ 1008.462001] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] No Caching mode page found
> [ 1008.462009] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through
> [ 1008.464128]  sdf: sdf1
> [ 1008.464219] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Attached SCSI disk
> [ 1023.783260] EXT4-fs (sdf1): mounted filesystem
> e26e8fef-8c48-4ad3-8258-10cb8fb47f81 r/w with ordered data mode. Quota
> mode: none.

The above shows user 'jacques' has no problem mounting the ext4 filesystem on 
WD Elements 2621, using udisksctl - this indicates there is no issue with the 
core userspace function.

However, Gnome applications (e.g. Nemo) use GIO, which calls GVFS, which then 
calls udisksctl to do the mounting/unmounting - not sure if FUSE is also 
brought into this mix as if the above stack of virtual fs libraries are not 
enough.

In any case, since you have proven udisks works as it should, the problem 
ought to lie within the Gnome related stack above that.


> Is it possible the owner/access rights of the ext4 fs has changed between
> > the time when it worked and now?
> 
> Well, i really don't know...
> 
> --
> Jacques

Since udisks works, this is not related to a change in a fs access rights 
restriction issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

[Jacques Montier]

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Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 15:26, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a écrit :

> On Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:38:33 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> > Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 13:39, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a écrit
> :
> > > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote:
> > > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> a
> > >
> > > écrit :
> > > > > Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of
> > > > > the
> > > > > desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome settings.  Play around with
> > > > > the
> > > > > auto-
> > > > > mount USB drive options, to see if it corrects itself.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Michael,
> > > >
> > > > I did not understand why an usb stick was automounted and not WD usb
> > >
> > > drive.
> > >
> > > > I saw the one was fat32 formatted and WD ext4.
> > > > So, i formatted fat32 another empty WD drive and it worked !
> > > > Last version of cinnamon could not automount ext4 drive ? That's
> weird.
> > > >
> > > > Well, it's not so important and in can deal with it.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Jacques
> > >
> > > Unlike ext4, the FAT filesystem does not support Unix file permissions
> so
> > > accessing the fs via userspace is more restricted than FAT.  However, I
> > > would
> > > expect a different error, like "wrong filesystem type ...".
> > >
> > > What do you get in your logs when your run:
> > >
> > > ~ $ udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdXx
> > >
> > > where Xx are the device and partition numbers?
> >
> > I get this :
> >
> > My external usb disk is labelled SAUVEGARDE.
> >
> > $ udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdf1
> > Mounted /dev/sdf1 at /run/media/jacques/SAUVEGARDE
> >
> > $ dmesg
> > [ 1003.189856] usb 10-2: new SuperSpeed USB device number 5 using
> xhci_hcd
> > [ 1003.205671] usb 10-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058,
> > idProduct=2621, bcdDevice=10.34
> > [ 1003.205682] usb 10-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> > SerialNumber=3
> > [ 1003.205688] usb 10-2: Product: Elements 2621
> > [ 1003.205709] usb 10-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital
> > [ 1003.205714] usb 10-2: SerialNumber: 575837324139315041324831
> > [ 1003.207086] usb-storage 10-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
> > [ 1003.207196] scsi host15: usb-storage 10-2:1.0
> > [ 1004.268434] scsi 15:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       Elements 2621
> >  1034 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
> > [ 1004.268645] sd 15:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg7 type 0
> > [ 1004.271067] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Spinning up disk...
> > [ 1005.291638] ....ready
> > [ 1008.461012] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks:
> (2.00
> > TB/1.82 TiB)
> > [ 1008.461494] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Write Protect is off
> > [ 1008.461502] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
> > [ 1008.462001] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] No Caching mode page found
> > [ 1008.462009] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > [ 1008.464128]  sdf: sdf1
> > [ 1008.464219] sd 15:0:0:0: [sdf] Attached SCSI disk
> > [ 1023.783260] EXT4-fs (sdf1): mounted filesystem
> > e26e8fef-8c48-4ad3-8258-10cb8fb47f81 r/w with ordered data mode. Quota
> > mode: none.
>
> The above shows user 'jacques' has no problem mounting the ext4 filesystem
> on
> WD Elements 2621, using udisksctl - this indicates there is no issue with
> the
> core userspace function.
>
> However, Gnome applications (e.g. Nemo) use GIO, which calls GVFS, which
> then
> calls udisksctl to do the mounting/unmounting - not sure if FUSE is also
> brought into this mix as if the above stack of virtual fs libraries are
> not
> enough.
>
> In any case, since you have proven udisks works as it should, the problem
> ought to lie within the Gnome related stack above that.
>
>
> > Is it possible the owner/access rights of the ext4 fs has changed between
> > > the time when it worked and now?
> >
> > Well, i really don't know...
> >
> > --
> >> Jacques
> >
> > Since udisks works, this is not related to a change in a fs access rights
> > restriction issue.
>
>
> So, everything seems ok.
>
> Thank you so much for helping me.


Cheers,

--
Jacques

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