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From: Mitchell Dorrell <mwd@psc.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 05:46:00 -0400
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 9:13=E2=80=AFPM Matt Jolly <kangie@gentoo.org> wrot=
e:
> On 24/9/24 10:52, Mitchell Dorrell wrote:
>
> > I run a four-monitor system using NVIDIA's closed-source drivers. Last
> > I heard, Wayland did not work with such a combination. Has that
> > changed?
>
> I run several 3-monitor NVIDIA setups on Wayland with no issue.
...
> Give it a try, you may be pleasantly surprised by what you discover.
Do you specifically use the closed-source drivers, though?
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 9:52=E2=80=AFPM Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@gentoo.org>=
wrote:
> I did say "usually" for a reason.
Yes, of course. I was only trying to say that using dlopen for a
wayland dependency isn't necessarily rare, and that some ebuilds code
this as an unconditional dependency.
> slack does indeed have only one dependency on dev-libs/wayland that I
> can find -- it comes from
> https://swiftshader.googlesource.com/SwiftShader/+/a88d056919f1a84777c8b3=
3531f40acc74a19d1e%5E%21/
>
> Previously, slack was modified to have an unconditional RDEPEND on
> wayland via
> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=3D0328dbab456f04c57b=
286cf93235f7323c7c5a0f
>
> The commit message indicates exactly why it was added and it was not
> "upstream says it's a dependency, so it's a dependency". :) Please open
> a bug report for it. Thanks.
Yep, I'll submit a bug report for Slack when I get a chance. Think I
should also submit one for Zoom, since libGLESv2 doesn't link to it
anymore?
> Overall I think that these phantom wayland dependencies are an artifact
> of Electron's constant churn and the fact that every application using
> electron basically bundles its own inconsistent copy of it.
I agree. There's only one other non-CEF/non-Electron application where
I also noticed an unnecessary Wayland dependency. I should submit a
bug report for that, too.
> --
> Eli Schwartz
>