From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A22A158232 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2024 22:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44EA1E0C4D; Mon, 9 Dec 2024 22:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp-relay-02.fibernetics.ca (mp-relay-02.fibernetics.ca [208.85.217.137]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E39C9E0C01 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2024 22:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailpool-fe-01.fibernetics.ca (mailpool-fe-01.fibernetics.ca [208.85.217.144]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mp-relay-02.fibernetics.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A34B661803 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2024 22:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mailpool-mx-01.fibernetics.ca [208.85.217.140]) by mailpool-fe-01.fibernetics.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0280349DC for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2024 22:02:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mailpool-fe-01.fibernetics.ca ([208.85.217.144]) by localhost (mail-mx-01.fibernetics.ca [208.85.217.140]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t6I0pvn07Nh9 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2024 22:02:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ca.inter.net; s=mail; t=1733781770; bh=AzJR9uiQZQ2muVrf7GnFikJg1FSHI1cxflypN86EIiU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=rSmRLxSUO6CRHYt/4PB5WpLBjFv7N7butTML1feTHxghXmuxl1uOBTqz/AuD3RnsZ ucyN/k+fz/2kkkJmO9hDp256SkpIokWaFyc0/HWRxKT2+BcdIkDeZ5TTV705CsCum0 s0fODd/8dXuulEQZyebJTvkDCaB0T7bG7DlxqEaEW2LNwQ3k4J7XfT5U3ssUp1wHoe Wu84PIXr9MRh2IsVpybuCVA7h22p5hKkuBZwsFTqtccqpNuHqWrCeUYDHPGdQGEC4g I9mxG03ZVo15okvyDUsDcDdD/748qoEmF1B9ttB0+D1rz2s2EZ6mXAyarRMLWRV51U SVEi4mnP1sSJQ== Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 17:02:45 -0500 From: Philip Webb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 5 hangs around Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <57818ef3-31b3-4a03-870d-bd85d1cdf34c@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57818ef3-31b3-4a03-870d-bd85d1cdf34c@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: bd28d44d-0075-4042-acb7-ab66788b8c57 X-Archives-Hash: 2a1ba28f5bd2ed2d610728425d8cb9eb 241209 Eli Schwartz wrote: > In general, you can use the -t option to emerge, > which tells you exactly, which dependencies are required for what. Thanx for your v prompt response. I do use -t sometimes. > In this case it's no great mystery: > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwayland-integration > This remains Qt 5 only, > as its features have been moved into KWindowSystem in KF6, > but this is still necessary for compatibility with Qt 5 apps. > Seems like a good enough reason to me -- why did you want to install it? See the listing below : I wanted to update KDE Plasma, now available, but ran into a long list of KDE-5 slots & was trying to understand why, so I tried 'emerge -pv kio', whose output you can see below ; it wanted to install Kwayland-integration therein, so I tried that. > It appears that it is not, in fact, a "KDE-6 pkg" after all. :) root:550 ~> eix kwayland-integration * kde-plasma/kwayland-integration Available versions: (5) 6.1.5 6.2.4 {debug} That looks like a KDE-6 pkg, doesn't it ? If the '(5)' means it's KDE-5, whyever are the versions '6.x.x' ?? PP> Why indeed is KDE-5 still supported anywhere in Gentoo ? ES> Because not everything has been ported to KDE 6, > just because plasma has been? Whyever not, given the complication wh arise therefrom ? Time has passed, action shd have been taken. Yes, I do always appreciate the unpaid labor of Gentoo devs & cb patient, if that is the actual problem (smile). Why am I required to install all these KDE-5 slots simply to update Kio ? root:551 ~> eixe kio [U] kde-frameworks/kio Available versions: (5) 5.116.0-r3(5/5.116)^t (6) 6.7.0(6/6.7)^t 6.7.0-r1(6/6.7)^t ~6.8.0-r1(6/6.8)^t {X acl debug designer doc +handbook kerberos +kwallet test wayland} Installed versions: 6.6.0(6/6.6)^t(23:01:35 10/07/24) (X acl handbook kwallet wayland -debug -designer -doc -test) root:552 ~> root:549 ~> emerge -pv kio setlocale: unsupported locale setting setlocale: unsupported locale setting These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Dependency resolution took 9.89 s (backtrack: 3/20). [ebuild NS ] kde-plasma/kwayland-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.2.4:6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc% -test" 0 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/ki18n-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="-python3_10 -python3_11 python3_12 -python3_13" 3057 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kconfig-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="dbus -debug -doc qml -test" 290 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 4173 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kdbusaddons-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="X -debug -doc -test" 48 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/karchive-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test zstd" 1004 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kcodecs-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test" 2449 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kitemviews-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 2212 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/sonnet-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-aspell -debug -designer -doc hunspell qml -test" 2351 KiB [ebuild NS ] dev-qt/qttranslations-5.15.14:5::gentoo [6.7.2:6/6.7.2::gentoo] USE="-debug% -test%" 1589 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kcoreaddons-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="dbus -debug -doc (-fam) -test" 2551 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kdoctools-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug nls -test" 455 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kcompletion-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 2283 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kcrash-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="X -debug -doc -test" 28 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kjobwidgets-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="X%* -debug -doc -test" 2216 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kguiaddons-5.116.0-r1:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="X dbus -debug -doc kf6compat%* -test wayland" 77 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kauth-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc (policykit) -test" 2254 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kconfigwidgets-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc man%* -test" 2554 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kiconthemes-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 1282 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kservice-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc man -test" 2480 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/solid-5.116.0-r1:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -ios -test" 301 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/ktextwidgets-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -speech -test" 2493 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kded-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug man" 41 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kwindowsystem-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="X -debug -doc -test wayland" 0 KiB [ebuild N ] kde-plasma/kwayland-integration-6.2.4:5::gentoo USE="-debug" 26 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/knotifications-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="X%* dbus%* -debug -doc -phonon% qml%* -speech%" 2318 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kglobalaccel-5.116.0-r1:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc kf6compat%* -test" 2252 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kxmlgui-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" 2885 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kwallet-5.116.0-r1:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0-r1:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -gpg kf6compat%* man -test" 346 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kbookmarks-5.116.0:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="-debug -doc -test" 1075 KiB [ebuild NS ] kde-frameworks/kio-5.116.0-r3:5/5.116::gentoo [6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo] USE="X acl -debug -designer -doc handbook -kerberos% kwallet -test (-wayland%*)" 3712 KiB Total: 31 packages (1 new, 30 in new slots), Size of downloads: 48790 KiB WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons:6 (kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.7.0:6/6.7::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" ABI_X86="(64)" conflicts with =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kxmlgui-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/knewstuff-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -designer -doc -opds" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/ktexteditor-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -doc editorconfig -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kiconthemes-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/frameworkintegration-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kwallet-6.6.0-r1:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -doc -gpg man -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kcmutils-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -doc -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kcompletion-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/ktextwidgets-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -designer -doc -speech -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kdeclarative-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -doc" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kjobwidgets-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -doc -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kio-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="X acl -debug -designer -doc handbook kwallet -test wayland" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kparts-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -doc -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kbookmarks-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -doc -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ =kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-6.6*:6 required by (kde-frameworks/kconfigwidgets-6.6.0:6/6.6::gentoo, installed) USE="-debug -designer -doc -test" ABI_X86="(64)" ^ ^^^^ !!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies !!! triggered by backtracking: kde-frameworks/kio:6 root:550 ~> -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatcadotinterdotnet