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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and openrc
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 18:15:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZvMBymZTSXNuYMZ0@MAC.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ae127a4-9aa0-4289-a6f8-e211277fa53c@gentoo.org>

Hello, Eli.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 11:24:14 -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote:
> On 9/24/24 8:34 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> >>> The context of this discussion was an implication that the Gentoo
> >>> maintainers wouldn't make a change "that made everyone's systems
> >>> suddenly break".  I submitted a bug report about --depclean back in
> >>> the summer of 2021 (though I can't find that bug any more).  I think
> >>> it was closed as not-a-bug.

> >> Whoever closed it was wrong, frankly.

> > I've found the bug.  It was 803878.  The developer who responded treated
> > my bug as though it were a request for personal support, and he
> > completely evaded my point that it was a bug in portage which should be
> > fixed.  It was actually closed as TEST-REQUEST, whatever that means.  The
> > bug was never addressed.


> The bug was confused about the issue at hand and lacking the full
> explanation of why it's an issue it could be understood why it was
> assumed to be a personal support request.

Whenever I get a confused bug report, the first thing I do is work out
what the problem really is, which often involves getting in touch with
the OP.  That didn't happen with 803878  - the response to my initial
bug report occurred with 17 minutes of it being raised.   

> It is not a bug in portage, which is part of the confusion here. It is a
> bug in virtual/service-manager.

That is clear now, it wasn't clear in 2021-06 when the bug was raised.
It is surely not the submitter's job to work out where in a system a bug
is caused, rather it's the job of the specialist handling the bug.

> I reopened the bug report, corrected the description, and assigned it.

Thanks!  That's appreciated.  It's looking like it's now going to get
fixed.  :-)

> https://bugs.gentoo.org/803878


> -- 
> Eli Schwartz

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-24 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-23 20:14 [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of! Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-23 21:11 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-23 22:08   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-23 22:54     ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-24 11:30       ` [gentoo-user] --depclean and openrc [Was: Wayland! Beware of!] Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-24 11:40         ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-24 12:34           ` [gentoo-user] --depclean and openrc Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-24 15:24             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-24 18:15               ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2024-09-27  0:09           ` [gentoo-user] --depclean and openrc [Was: Wayland! Beware of!] Mitchell Dorrell
2024-09-24 15:15         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-24 18:53           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-24 19:36             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-10-25 19:22               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-26  3:10                 ` Walter Dnes
2024-10-27  1:53                 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-10-27 22:52                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-27 23:14                     ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-25  0:32             ` Matt Jolly
2024-09-24  0:43     ` [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of! Michael Orlitzky
2024-09-24  0:52       ` Mitchell Dorrell
2024-09-24  1:13         ` Matt Jolly
2024-09-24  1:52         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-24  9:46           ` Mitchell Dorrell
2024-09-25  0:14             ` Matt Jolly
2024-09-24 10:05     ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2024-09-24 22:00   ` Walter Dnes
2024-09-25  1:42     ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-25 10:00       ` Walter Dnes
2024-09-25 11:53         ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-25 22:21           ` Walter Dnes
2024-09-26  0:25             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-26  5:08               ` Walter Dnes
2024-09-26 19:18             ` James Cloos
2024-09-25 14:26         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-25 14:40           ` jay
2024-09-26  0:19       ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-09-23 21:12 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-23 21:20 ` Wol
2024-09-23 22:53   ` karl
2024-09-24  7:10     ` Wols Lists
2024-09-24 18:32       ` What is what (Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!) karl
2024-09-24 23:44         ` Wols Lists

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