[gentoo-user] What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

[gentoo-user] What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

[Grant Edwards]

The Subversion 1.14.3 ebuild was stablized 22 hours ago, but it
doesn't actually seem to be available for download.  Any ideas on what
happened?




>>> Downloading 'http://gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu/distfiles/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2'
URL transformed to HTTPS due to an HSTS policy
--2024-10-22 21:56:56--  https://gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu/distfiles/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2
Resolving gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu... 156.56.247.195
Connecting to gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu|156.56.247.195|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2024-10-22 21:56:56 ERROR 404: Not Found.

>>> Downloading 'https://apache.mirror.iphh.net/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2'
--2024-10-22 21:56:56--  https://apache.mirror.iphh.net/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2
Resolving apache.mirror.iphh.net... 62.201.161.83, 2001:868:0:182::3
Connecting to apache.mirror.iphh.net|62.201.161.83|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2024-10-22 21:56:57 ERROR 404: Not Found.

>>> Downloading 'https://dlcdn.apache.org/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2'
--2024-10-22 21:56:57--  https://dlcdn.apache.org/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2
Resolving dlcdn.apache.org... 151.101.2.132, 2a04:4e42::644
Connecting to dlcdn.apache.org|151.101.2.132|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2024-10-22 21:56:57 ERROR 404: Not Found.

>>> Downloading 'https://apache.osuosl.org/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2'
--2024-10-22 21:56:57--  https://apache.osuosl.org/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2
Resolving apache.osuosl.org... 140.211.166.134, 64.50.236.52, 64.50.233.100, ...
Connecting to apache.osuosl.org|140.211.166.134|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2024-10-22 21:56:57 ERROR 404: Not Found.

>>> Downloading 'https://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/ftp.apache.org/dist/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2'
--2024-10-22 21:56:57--  https://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/ftp.apache.org/dist/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2
Resolving ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de... 129.143.116.10, 2001:7c0:700::10
Connecting to ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de|129.143.116.10|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2024-10-22 21:56:58 ERROR 404: Not Found.

>>> Downloading 'https://artfiles.org/apache.org/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2'
--2024-10-22 21:56:58--  https://artfiles.org/apache.org/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2
Resolving artfiles.org... 212.72.164.211, 2a00:1f78:af:c003::2
Connecting to artfiles.org|212.72.164.211|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2024-10-22 21:56:58 ERROR 404: Not Found.

>>> Downloading 'https://ftp.fau.de/apache/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2'
--2024-10-22 21:56:58--  https://ftp.fau.de/apache/subversion/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2
Resolving ftp.fau.de... 131.188.12.211, 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1
Connecting to ftp.fau.de|131.188.12.211|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2024-10-22 21:56:59 ERROR 404: Not Found.

!!! Couldn't download 'subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2'. Aborting.

>>> Failed to emerge dev-vcs/subversion-1.14.3, Log file:

>>>  '/var/tmp/portage/dev-vcs/subversion-1.14.3/temp/build.log'

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

[Eli Schwartz]

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On 10/22/24 11:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> The Subversion 1.14.3 ebuild was stablized 22 hours ago, but it
> doesn't actually seem to be available for download.  Any ideas on what
> happened?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Downloading 'http://gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu/distfiles/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2'
> URL transformed to HTTPS due to an HSTS policy
> --2024-10-22 21:56:56--  https://gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu/distfiles/subversion-1.14.3.tar.bz2
> Resolving gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu... 156.56.247.195
> Connecting to gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu|156.56.247.195|:443... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
> 2024-10-22 21:56:56 ERROR 404: Not Found.


This mirror is broken so probably you cannot ever download anything
ever. The mirror still works but you have the wrong url for USSG as they
don't use subdomains for this anymore.

The other downloads all fail because 1.14.3 is no longer the latest
point release of subversion and it appears that Apache's mirror system
only makes files available for a short time using our current download
scheme. They have a separate download location for "old releases", which
is charmingly venomous behavior -- and they are not the only ones. ;)

But fix your GENTOO_MIRRORS and things should be fine.


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Eli Schwartz

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Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

[Ionen Wolkens]

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On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 03:05:17AM -0000, Grant Edwards wrote:
> The Subversion 1.14.3 ebuild was stablized 22 hours ago, but it
> doesn't actually seem to be available for download.  Any ideas on what
> happened?

While apache has removed it from their mirrors (they seem to only have
the latest release right now? 1.14.4, not sure if it's typical of what
they usually do), this doesn't matter given Gentoo's mirrors still have
it.

And if it's not fetching it, that implies that your GENTOO_MIRRORS
configuration in /etc/portage/make.conf likely need to be updated
(maybe you only have a old broken mirror in there).

If in doubt, just remove GENTOO_MIRRORS entirely and use the default
rotation.
-- 
ionen

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[gentoo-user] Re: What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2024-10-23, Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 10/22/24 11:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> The Subversion 1.14.3 ebuild was stablized 22 hours ago, but it
>> doesn't actually seem to be available for download.  Any ideas on what
>> happened?

> This mirror is broken so probably you cannot ever download anything
> ever. The mirror still works but you have the wrong url for USSG as they
> don't use subdomains for this anymore.
>
> The other downloads all fail because 1.14.3 is no longer the latest
> point release of subversion and it appears that Apache's mirror system
> only makes files available for a short time using our current download
> scheme. They have a separate download location for "old releases", which
> is charmingly venomous behavior -- and they are not the only ones. ;)
>
> But fix your GENTOO_MIRRORS and things should be fine.

Yep. My bad.  Both of the mirrors I had configured had stopped
working, and I didn't notice that amongst the other 404 errors. It
seems like I regularly have to pick a new mirror on at least one of my
Gentoo installs.

Is there some automated way to deal with that?

[gentoo-user] Re: What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2024-10-23, Ionen Wolkens <ionen@gentoo.org> wrote:

> If in doubt, just remove GENTOO_MIRRORS entirely and use the default
> rotation.

I never knew that was an option!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

[Eli Schwartz]

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On 10/22/24 11:20 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Yep. My bad.  Both of the mirrors I had configured had stopped
> working, and I didn't notice that amongst the other 404 errors. It
> seems like I regularly have to pick a new mirror on at least one of my
> Gentoo installs.
> 
> Is there some automated way to deal with that?


Aside for the default (distfiles.gentoo.org, run by Gentoo, presumed
extremely reliable uptime for that reason)...

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GENTOO_MIRRORS

points to

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mirrorselect#Select_the_Gentoo_source_mirror.28s.29

Mirrorselect is a tool for selecting a good, up to date mirror and
filtering for geographic closeness and download speed.


-- 
Eli Schwartz

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[gentoo-user] Re: What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2024-10-23, Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 10/22/24 11:20 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> Yep. My bad.  Both of the mirrors I had configured had stopped
>> working, and I didn't notice that amongst the other 404 errors. It
>> seems like I regularly have to pick a new mirror on at least one of my
>> Gentoo installs.
>> 
>> Is there some automated way to deal with that?
>
> Aside for the default (distfiles.gentoo.org, run by Gentoo, presumed
> extremely reliable uptime for that reason)...

Huh. I never knew there was a default (reliable) mirror.  The handbook
doesn't mention that. It states

    In order to download source code quickly it is recommended to
    select a fast, geographically close mirror.  Portage will look in
    the make.conf file for the GENTOO_MIRRORS variable and use the
    mirrors listed therein.

There's no mention that there's a default, and my reading of that
paragraph is that you are required to have GENTOO_MIRRORS set.  [Yes,
the section is labelled "optional", but it doesn't read like it's
optional.]

In the future, I'll leave GENTOO_MIRRORS unset, because it's a PITA to
have to keep fixing it when a mirror stops working or starts
responding so slowly.

> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GENTOO_MIRRORS

I never looked in the Wiki because I thought the Handbook seemed clear
to me.

--
Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's up with subversion 1.14.3?

[Eli Schwartz]

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On 10/23/24 12:15 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Huh. I never knew there was a default (reliable) mirror.  The handbook
> doesn't mention that. It states
> 
>     In order to download source code quickly it is recommended to
>     select a fast, geographically close mirror.  Portage will look in
>     the make.conf file for the GENTOO_MIRRORS variable and use the
>     mirrors listed therein.
> 
> There's no mention that there's a default, and my reading of that
> paragraph is that you are required to have GENTOO_MIRRORS set.  [Yes,
> the section is labelled "optional", but it doesn't read like it's
> optional.]


That is correct -- it is optional because the default isn't really
guaranteed to be fast (especially if *everyone* uses it and no one uses
the other mirrors).


> In the future, I'll leave GENTOO_MIRRORS unset, because it's a PITA to
> have to keep fixing it when a mirror stops working or starts
> responding so slowly.


I suppose you could also just have a cron job that runs mirrorselect
once a week. It's unlikely a mirror will die quite that fast -- usually
they will start to become slow and unreliable first -- and regularly
refreshing the urls means that when a mirror doesn't disappear but does
change its directory structure, you end up with the preferred structure.

But of course the default mirror can work fine as well (albeit often a
bit slowly).


-- 
Eli Schwartz

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