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From: Matt Jolly <kangie@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and openrc [Was: Wayland! Beware of!]
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 10:32:54 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfa42c3b-457b-4458-a276-c034d8a28483@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZvMKmwAfI0AzKqzB@MAC.fritz.box>

Hi Alan,

On 25/9/24 04:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Perhaps.  As already said, I would have been much less jumpy if the
> explanations which have come in this thread had been in a news item.

As has been mentioned here this was not news-worthy. There is no
decision to make or mandatory migration. Users on the desktop
profile have simply transparently been rolled forward with a USE flag
change as happens with some regularity.

> With this change involving wayland, users HAVE to make a decision, namely
> whether to set USE='-wayland', as both of us have done, or to accept the
> bloat of around 50 packages and many megabytes of things like qt and kde
> libraries.  I think the necessary background information to make that
> decision was missing.

Most users of a desktop profile already made their decision: to trust
the distribution developers to make sane decisions on their behalf, and
to deviate from the default when they have a need to.

At the end of the day, unless your workstation is a literal 1990s potato
you can spare the disk space and CPU time for Wayland if you're on a
desktop profile. Users that really care about these things are
encouraged to carefully inspect each of the USE flags changed on a world
update (and ideally are familiar with Gentoo VCS) so that they can
inform themselves when a change comes around.

Cheers,

Matt


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-25  0:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-23 20:14 [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of! Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-23 21:11 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-23 22:08   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-23 22:54     ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-24 11:30       ` [gentoo-user] --depclean and openrc [Was: Wayland! Beware of!] Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-24 11:40         ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-24 12:34           ` [gentoo-user] --depclean and openrc Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-24 15:24             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-24 18:15               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-27  0:09           ` [gentoo-user] --depclean and openrc [Was: Wayland! Beware of!] Mitchell Dorrell
2024-09-24 15:15         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-24 18:53           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-09-24 19:36             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-10-25 19:22               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-26  3:10                 ` Walter Dnes
2024-10-27  1:53                 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-10-27 22:52                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-27 23:14                     ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-25  0:32             ` Matt Jolly [this message]
2024-09-24  0:43     ` [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of! Michael Orlitzky
2024-09-24  0:52       ` Mitchell Dorrell
2024-09-24  1:13         ` Matt Jolly
2024-09-24  1:52         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-24  9:46           ` Mitchell Dorrell
2024-09-25  0:14             ` Matt Jolly
2024-09-24 10:05     ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2024-09-24 22:00   ` Walter Dnes
2024-09-25  1:42     ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-25 10:00       ` Walter Dnes
2024-09-25 11:53         ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-25 22:21           ` Walter Dnes
2024-09-26  0:25             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-26  5:08               ` Walter Dnes
2024-09-26 19:18             ` James Cloos
2024-09-25 14:26         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-09-25 14:40           ` jay
2024-09-26  0:19       ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-09-23 21:12 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-09-23 21:20 ` Wol
2024-09-23 22:53   ` karl
2024-09-24  7:10     ` Wols Lists
2024-09-24 18:32       ` What is what (Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland! Beware of!) karl
2024-09-24 23:44         ` Wols Lists

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