Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HTML5 player (YouTube) is a pain!...Alternatives?

[J. Roeleveld]

On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 07:08:45 AM Meino.Cramer@×××.de wrote:
> J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> [16-11-30 06:48]:
> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 05:33:15 AM Meino.Cramer@×××.de wrote:
> > > Kai Krakow <hurikhan77@×××××.com> [16-11-30 05:08]:
> > > > Am Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:42:16 +0100
> > > >
> > > > schrieb Meino.Cramer@×××.de:
> > > > > I get sick of this [CESNORED] HTML5 stuff coming from YouTube!
> > > > > Most of the videos while playayaingnaying arereare stututterutering
> > > > > liiklike helellell.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tested a lot of HTML5 addons to fix that problem and googled
> > > > > around the world but nothing helps. The only thing I found is an
> > > > > iconic sentence, which is true in this case also:
> > > > > "You are not alone...!".
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any way to feed the stream from youtube direktly into
> > > > > a not blown player like mpv/mplayer or such (I would prefer
> > > > > not to load a complete gui (vlc) with any click again and again.)?
> > > >
> > > > For me it was just the other way around. HTML5 mode played much (very
> > > > much!) more smooth than flash player. I opted in early by that time
> > > > for
> > > > switching YT to HTML5 player. This was for Chrome, of course, because
> > > > by that time Firefox wasn't really compatible.
> > > >
> > > > You probably really should check your graphics stack. If you have an
> > > > at
> > > > least somewhat decent machine (something which was built during the
> > > > last 5 years), you should have absolutely no problems playing videos
> > > > in
> > > > the HTML5 player. Even my aging machine in the office (which didn't
> > > > play smooth videos in the flash player) runs full HD streaming videos
> > > > smoothly in the HTML5 player - no stuttering, no blocking, no
> > > > framedrops. This was different with the flash player which looked like
> > > > it dropped every second frame in fullscreen mode - but at least it did
> > > > not stutter due to that "optimization".
> > > >
> > > > Maybe give some information about your graphics stack and
> > > > configuration...
> > >
> > > Hi Kai,
> > >
> > > I think that the hardware is not the problem, since downloading the
> > > video and playing it offline had resulted in no problems ever...
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Meino
> >
> > Meino,
> >
> > In one of your other emails, you mentioned that your ADSL is incapable of
> > providing the full-HD stream.
> > This could easily be the cause for the issues you are having with HTML5
> > video as well. Maybe look into cache-options?
> >
> > --
> > Joost
>
> Joost,
>
> did this (~/.config/mpv/mpv.config) with no positive effect.
> I decreased the video resolution to <1280 (again via mpv.conf) which
> helps to some degree.
> Interesting is: It hangs always a the same points in the video if
> playing the same video with different configurations.
>
> I called mpv with an url form the commandline and indeed it shows
> "playing video" and "buffering" (at this point it hangs) alternateing.
>
> The FF problem was not only hangs but something like the following
> sentence:
>
> Thehe quiquickkckick bkrowownwn foxoxfoxx joxujumumpjumpsumps
> oveovrver thhehe lazazylazyzy dogog
>
> Somehow three steps forward and two backwards. The audio was never
> effected though.
>
> With "Play with mpv" it """"only"""" hangs.
>
> Do I really need an new DSL contract with my provider becayse
> FF has switched to HTML5 only?
>
> Can't be...or?

It depends. (seriously)

What you describe is what I get when I'm using my mobile connection with bad 
reception. In other words, it does sound like a bandwidth issue.

Dave solves that by downloading the files and then watching it locally.

What kind of bandwidth (up and down) do you have? And what else is using that 
connection while you are trying to watch a video?

I don't think it's HTML5 at fault, the same amount of data needs to be 
transfered, but it might be that HTML5 is less bandwidth efficient than Flash. 

I don't seem to have flash installed on my current machine and am using FF45.5. 
In there, with Youtube, I do get the option to change the resolution on the 
video-streams. Don't you get that?

--
Joost