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Michael Orlitzky <mjo <at> gentoo.org> writes: |
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> > No, those are all the correct names that git uses. Possibly years of |
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> > using cvs/svn has trained your brain to think in a particular way. |
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> > Git does not work that way. It's as different from svn as you can get |
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> > for 2 reasons... |
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I think you missed the point; There is a void between the install handbook |
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and the Dev and Ebuild documents. That is how to use git(&github) as a user |
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progresses along the pathway to near dev capabilities. Sure you can 'grind |
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it out' on your own and if that is what folks want, then there should be |
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'no bitching' about not enough devs. If the Gentoo community decides |
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'hey it'd sure be nice to have many more devs' then the pathways is dimly |
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lit, imho. |
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> It all makes enough sense after you get used to it, but the problem is |
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> that if you have some operation in mind and you read "git --help", then |
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> you're going to guess the wrong command based on their names. Mercurial |
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> and Darcs (which have a similar model) managed to get the names right. |
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Yes, I get the differences. They are not 'show stoppers' for me, but I do |
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believe the process of obtaining dev_level capabilities within the |
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gentoo framework, would be much more pleasurable if some git documentation, |
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customer tailored to gentoo was slowly develop over time on the gentoo wiki. |
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> The git people call their low-level commands "plumbing," and the |
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> user-interface "porcelain." New user have trouble because the porcelain |
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> commands are named after what the plumbing does. It's like if the |
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> find/replace tool in your word processor was called "depth-first regular |
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> expression group match substitution", and not "find." |
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OK, Git is not really that bit of a problem. It's finding the right hammer |
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and tools to get it working seemlessly with what is going on within |
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the dev efforts. Granted, much is still being worked out, I get that |
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(and read about it). But user level maniputions of overlays and ebuild |
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sources using git, is a bit of a 'walk once' atm, imho. |
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Maybe in time somebody will just grab a git manual/doc and hammer on it |
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so is looks and smells like a gentoo doc, and put it up in the wiki.... |
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Maybe just a gentoo-user-howto for common user level tasks. |
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Just expressing my opine, timely with Peter and other's comments and my |
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own beliefs. |
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Thanks for the comments, |
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James |
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