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On Friday, 14 September 2018 08:53:51 BST Marc Joliet wrote: |
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> Am Freitag, 14. September 2018, 04:47:21 CEST schrieb james: |
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> > > Me cleaner only nerfs it by removing various modules, either BUP (init) |
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> > > still runs or the kernel still runs plus any option/mask roms. |
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> > Perhaps a bit of detail on this? |
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> Taiidan is referring to https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner. I don't |
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> remember the details (and have no experience with it), but AFAIK it does |
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> remove a good chunk of the ME. |
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> HTH |
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Yes, there's a description in the URL James had posted when starting this |
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thread: |
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https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sakaki%27s_EFI_Install_Guide/ |
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Disabling_the_Intel_Management_Engine |
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"Nicola Corna's me_cleaner ... removes the vast majority of the ME's software |
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modules (including network stack, RTOS and Java VM), leaving only the |
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essential 'bring up' components (the latter being necessary because, on modern |
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systems if the IME fails to initialize, either the machine startup will be |
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completely halted at that point, or startup will appear to complete, only for |
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a watchdog timer to reset the whole PC 30 minutes later." |
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So, the Management Engine itself is not disabled, only some of its modules. |
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To an extent the ME is partially incapacitated, but the engine itself within |
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the CPU is alive and kicking and it's only a re-flash away from being re- |
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enabled. |
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With AMD's PSP/Secure Technology an out of band embedded Arm processor |
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presents a major security backdoor. Ryzenfall, Fallout and Chimera, are all |
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vulnerability beauties available to compromise your security, courtesy of |
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AMD's dev dept. It makes me smile that MS Azure is apparently running on |
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these CPUs. No ME cleaner equivalent is available for these CPUs yet. |
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As Taiidan has mentioned only old MoBos of the Intel/AMD oligopoly are safe |
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from being pawned-by-design, as well as IBM's POWER9. For laptops however as |
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far as I know there is little choice other than recycling old MoBos. |
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Regards, |
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Mick |