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On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:35:39 +0000 |
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hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote: |
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> Tanstaafl: |
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> > On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote: |
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> >> Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common |
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> >> thing in this world. It can even be intentional, causing no |
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> >> emotional, financial, social or intellectual profit. Maybe you |
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> >> have never met such a person or have never been in such an |
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> >> environment. |
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> > You are confusing 'intent' with 'result'. |
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> No. You are confusing yourself with the rest of the world. |
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:-) |
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> > Even self-destructive behavior is in the vast majority of cases |
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> > engaged in with the *intention* of profit. Best example I can think |
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> > of would be a drug addict/alcoholic. When they use/drink, they |
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> > 'profit' in that the feel better (albeit temporarily), regardless |
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> > of the ultimate result. |
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> I wasn't really talking about drug addicts. |
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> If you are interested in real self-destructive behaviour, talk to |
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> someone who has worked in an asylum which is only one interesting |
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> environment that can make you think very different about "people". |
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> There are even people who are not driven by anything, not even |
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> self-destruction. Pure apathy. |
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> Another interesting thing... talk to a trial lawyer who has been in |
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> that business for 10+ years. I really doubt that many of those will |
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> support your "profit intention" concept. Most of the time it's about |
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> short-cut reactions that are merely following instincts or emotional |
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> impulses. Strong emotions can make someone lose control and do all |
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> sorts of weird things without any hope or intention of |
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> improving/gaining anything for living it out. |
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> It's chemistry, it changes your consciousness. "Profit" is a bit more |
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> complex and requires a minimum amount of reflection, even if it is |
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> subconscious, short sighted and follows false assumptions. |
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> So these are just 3 points why your generalization does not work, like |
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> most of those "all people..." phrases. Unless you hack on the |
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> definition until it suits your interpretation, like redefining "profit |
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> intention" to "intention". |
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Thank you for the wonderful answer! |
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> This reminds me of "the user" in computer science papers. Well, which |
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