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From: james <garftd@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new mail protocol rfc (was Re: tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 21:18:53
Message-Id: 3ac3b634-b7c3-2f0a-ec8e-13718b19994a@verizon.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] new mail protocol rfc (was Re: tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?) by Ashley Dixon
1 On 8/26/20 1:57 PM, Ashley Dixon wrote:
2 > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 05:19:16PM +0000, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
3 >> hi. i request comments on this new mail protocol
4 >> which i plan to implement some day if things turn
5 >> out well. here is its zeroth draft:
6 >>
7 >> https://github.com/al-caveman/hillarymail
8
9 I like what I see, so far.
10
11 >
12 > Interesting proposal. A few non-technical questions:
13 >
14 > Why the name "HillaryMail", and why does the logo contain a picture of Margaret
15 > Thatcher? ;-)
16 >
17 > More seriously, do you intend to write a reference implementation, or submit
18 > this as a more formal R.F.C. in the event of it attracting more attention?
19
20 Nice idea. I suggest the R.P.4 so it can stay up 24/365.
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23 > Furthermore, accusing every SMTP/POP/IMAP user to be an "idiot" may not be the
24 > best way of attaining support; I must admit, I have never seen that in an
25 > initial protocol proposal.
26
27 I'll wear that moniker, as a follower and implementor and testor.....
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30 >
31 > I'm also slightly confused regarding the "goals" section. By "easy to
32 > install/use", do you mean "easy" for the people implementing the protocol, or
33 > the people making use of said implementations? "Traditional" SMTP mail clients
34 > have always been pretty straight-forward for me, although the difficulty
35 > involved in _implementing_ an M.T.A. is another story. I find this point rather
36 > equivocal.
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39 Whatever grant offers, surely I'll at least attempt to implement. email
40 services are getting hammered, from a traditional functional
41 perspective. I do not like what the big corps are doing and just want a
42 standards complint , reasonable secure solution. Is there something
43 better for me to follow than this offering from grant ?
44
45 From the private emails I have received, over the last month or so,
46 there is quite and interest in running your own (secure?) DNS and email
47 services....
48
49 Perhaps there is a solution for the R.P.4 for other linux distros I have
50 not found, yet? If so, I'd still want a gentoo centric solution.
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52
53 hth,
54 James