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From: Michael Cook <mcook@××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:01:12
Message-Id: CAL3tS1a0gsAvVDvF_ZFR5g1A_mYYUsA1rHOFvH4Hh6NAu56b-Q@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2 by LK
1 You can't edit /etc/default/grub to customize how grub-mkconfig generates
2 grub.cfg. Mint probably has update-grub like Ubuntu does which just allows
3 you to use that command instead of grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
4 On Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM, "LK" <linuxrocksrulers@××××××××××.com> wrote:
5
6 >
7 > On 120214, at 20:29, Andrea Conti wrote:
8 > >> PS: If you know how to get rid of any background image, could you
9 > >> say how?
10 > > Remove or comment out any "splashimage" directives from the config file.
11 > I meant in GRUB2. I have another box with linux mint using GRUB2, and
12 > splash backgrounds in GRUB / lowlevel menus or anywhere ("branding")
13 > reminds me of commercialism like Apple putting their logo onto every
14 > product. (They are good, tho, the apple logo is stylish. Now imagine the
15 > iPhone would have a rectangle-like icon with bad proportions)
16 >
17 > > Re grub2: as long as grub0 works, I really don't care if grub2 is
18 > > better, cleaner, shinier, more modern or anything else.
19 > >
20 > > I don't need a freakin' whole OS to boot linux, and having a
21 > > configuration that is so convoluted that it *has to* be generated by
22 > > running a set of scripts makes no sense at all. I thought the days of m4
23 > > and sendmail.cf were over a long time ago...
24 > >
25 > > I am sure grub2 can be made to work, but for a piece of software as
26 > > vital as a boot loader, that level of complexity in my opinion is
27 > > totally unreasonable and impossible to justify.
28 >
29 > I agree to you in a big part. Thanks.
30 >
31 > Big companies like Microsoft or Apple are doing a thing i simply call
32 > "Similarisation of features for new/unknowledged users", which always
33 > goes in the reverse direction on long-term. Sample situation: Microsoft
34 > Repair CD: You can select to partition your disk appropiate to how the
35 > assistant will like it. You are being hid from all the details, as you wont
36 > understand them any way.
37 > Once you try to do something special, you get problems bigger than
38 > without this 'improvement for new ones'. This is because less work is
39 > being done to the detailed way of doing it, and more to the simple,
40 > which is made to just do one or two things.
41 > Essence: The system is hidden, you only see actions what you can
42 > do (update-grub in our case) instead of the system. This is obviously
43 > wrong because the system, the back-end, takes more than
44 > the front-end. Now the front-end should represent the back-end in a
45 > human readable form and not simplify to fit the least knowledged.
46 >
47 > BUT, i guess (from what ive heard) grub2 is fine with editing it by
48 > hand. And the command does really only assist in the simpliest
49 > matter, only combines all actions you'd have to take yourself.
50 > Thanks for the clearance.
51 >
52 > (If you want to criticise the above big block of text, I always fail to
53 > express myself well.)
54 >

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