Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SVG plugin

[Daniel da Veiga]

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:44, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@×××××.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kevin O'Gorman<kogorman@×××××.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de> wrote:
>>> On 06/15/2009 03:30 PM, Mick wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 2009/6/15 Florian Philipp<lists@f_philipp.fastmail.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mick schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trying to view a web page I produced some yonks ago, which at that the
>>>>>> time would utilise the Adobe SVG plugin to render a gantt chart.  The
>>>>>> header of the file went like this:
>>>>>> =============================================
>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 20000303 Stylable//EN"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/03/WD-SVG-20000303/DTD/svg-20000303-stylable.dtd">
>>>>>> <svg xml:space="preserve" width="10in" height="8in"
>>>>>> style="font-family:'Arial';font-size:8">
>>>>>> =============================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adobe seem to have abandoned further development.  Any idea what I can
>>>>>> use to render such a graphic (image/svg+xml) in a browser?
>>>>>
>>>>> Firefox supports svg out of the box, now. Maybe you need the svg
>>>>> USE-flag for x11-libs/cairo.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, mozilla-firefox does not have an svg flag.  Anyway, I have svg in
>>>> my /etc/make.conf and also have cairo installed:
>>>>
>>>> [I] x11-libs/cairo
>>>>
>>>>      Installed versions:  1.8.6-r1!t(18:54:43 03/17/09)(X glitz opengl
>>>> svg -cleartype -debug -directfb -doc -xcb)
>>>>
>>>> It's not just FF, but also Opera and Konqueror cannot render it either
>>>> and ask to download a plugin.
>>>
>>> The code in your webpage is probably wrong.  You should just use a normal
>>> HTML header instead of this weird "<!DOCTYPE svg" thingy you're using now.
>>>  Embed SVG images inside the page with a PNG fallback like this:
>>>
>>> <object data="URL_TO_YOUR.svg" type="image/svg+xml" height="PIXELS"
>>> width="PIXELS">
>>>    <img src="URL_TO_YOUR.png" height="PIXELS" width="PIXELS">
>>> </object>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I tried that Adobe site in FF on gentoo and ubuntu with the same
>> non-result.  On Vista, I tried FF, Opera, Safari and IE 8, with varied
>> forms of failure.  Interestingly, Opera at least offered to start
>> inkscape to view the image, which succeeded.  The text on that image
>> suggested it's specific to an adobe plugin -- which it plugs of
>> course.
>>
>> Does somebody have a web page with SVGs that normal browsers with
>> non-proprietary plugins/viewers _can_ view?
>
> I looked a little further.  I thought it interesting that Safari could
> also not view the Adobe SVG thingy.  Moreover,
> http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/ shows they've dropped support
> for their viewer, and the most recent blurb promoting SVG relates to
> Illustrator CS2, when CS4 is the current version.  I have CS4, but
> haven't learned to use it yet.
>
> Is there a future in SVG?
>

AFAIK, SVG has a future. Adobe's SVG, on the other hand, seems broken.
My router firmware (Tomato) uses SVG for graphics and everything work
fine on Firefox. That SVG example from Adobe's site doesn't work. You
can safely assume they're using SVG in a way only THEIR plugin would
read.

<off>Reminds me of PDF, where Adobe completely broke standards, I have
some PDFs that every other PDF Reader I could install, even online
standalone apps can read, but Adobe Acrobat can't, and it yells the
file is broken</off>

-- 
Daniel da Veiga