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From: "»Q«" <boxcars@×××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 02:52:05
Message-Id: 20130929215135.76ac0cf1@fuchsia.remarqs.net
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem by Greg Woodbury
1 On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:03:11 -0400
2 Greg Woodbury <redwolfe@×××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > One of the most obvious things that broke booting with a
5 > seperate /usr is not GNOMEs fault, but GRUB 2's fault.
6 >
7 > the move of /bin to /usr/bin (for things like cp,mv,ln,ls) came after
8 > the breakage of /usr, but is symptomatic of some distros cavalier
9 > attitudes to the problem.
10 >
11 > /usr/lib/udev.....
12 > /usr/lib/systemd.....
13 >
14 > were both placed in /usr despite objections from a number of folks.
15 >
16 > So claims that udev and systemd are not responsible are not true.
17 >
18 > /usr/lib/e2initrd-helper was placed in /usr despite objections.
19 > /usr/lib/libdevmapper* was moved despite objections...
20 > /usr/lib/liblvm2* helpers were placed in /usr despite objections...
21 >
22 > There were deliberate placements of "new" or updated libraries
23 > in /usr that were known ahead of time that would break the use of a
24 > separate /usr filesystem.
25 >
26 > It was pointed out quite plainly at the time, and the placements were
27 > made anyway, dismissing the concerns are "mere historical artifacts"
28 > or "clinging to ancient and outmoded traditions."
29
30 What were the reasons given for those changes at the time?