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From: "Taiidan@×××.com" <Taiidan@×××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 01:30:13
Message-Id: ea520e2e-9f43-822f-fe83-4ece4a066528@gmx.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No by Dale
1 On 12/19/2016 05:50 PM, Dale wrote:
2
3 > lee wrote:
4 >> Daniel Frey <djqfrey@×××××.com> writes:
5 >>
6 >>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote:
7 >>>> "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@××××××××.org> writes:
8 >>>>
9 >>>>> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one
10 >>>>> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0.
11 >>>> Since 10 years or so, the default is two ports.
12 >>> Not in any of the computers I've built. Generally only high end or
13 >>> workstation/server boards have two ports.
14 >>>
15 >>> i.e. not what the typical home user would buy.
16 >> It is not reasonable to assume that a "typical home user" would want a
17 >> computer with a crappy board to run Linux on it (or for anything
18 >> else). If they are that cheap, they're better off buying a used one.
19 >> When they are sufficiently clueless to want something like that, what
20 >> does it matter what the network interfaces are called.
21 >>
22 > I built my current rig just a few years ago. It has one ethernet port
23 > on it. Since it didn't work right, bad drivers I guess, I added a card
24 > to have the second port. The rig I built before that, it also had one
25 > ethernet port.
26 >
27 > I might add, I didn't buy a "crappy board" either. The first was Abit
28 > which was the top rated brand at the time and my current board is
29 > Gigabyte, another highly rated board at the time I bought it. As Daniel
30 > points out, you have to get into some pretty high end boards before you
31 > get two ethernet ports.
32 >
33 > Just for giggles, I went and looked at Asus boards, currently highly
34 > rated. I had to get up around the $400 range to find two ports. Most
35 > computers built for home use, and even some, maybe most, business
36 > computers, only have one port. It's all they need.
37 >
38 > I might also add, I have a lot of friends that give me their old
39 > computers. Of all the puters I have ever seen, they had one ethernet
40 > port. Over the past decade or so, I've likely stripped out a few dozen
41 > computers for parts. Not one of them had two ethernet ports.
42 >
43 > I'm with Daniel on this one.
44 >
45 > Dale
46 >
47 > :-) :-)
48 I too have never seen a non server board with more than one embedded
49 network interface.
50 I have an expensive server board that features two ethernet ports but I
51 really hate the removal of the ethX scheme, sometimes they get detected
52 in the wrong order and ethX is way easier to type than ens1s0 or what not.
53
54 It is just another swell example of the pottering-eqsue corruption of
55 the free software movement.

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