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On 12/03/2013 00:45, Walter Dnes wrote: |
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>> NAT is the context of an IPv6 discussion is *very* relevant, it's |
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>> > one of the points you have to raise to illustrate what bits inside |
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>> > people's heads needs to be identified and changed. |
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>> > Until you change the content of people's heads, IPv6 is just not |
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>> > going to happen. |
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> I disagree with you there. IPV6 adoption will be driven by shortage |
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> of addresses, which people can understand. It will not be accomplished |
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> by sermons about the evils of NAT whilst people's eyes glaze over. |
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> "A preachment, dear friends, you are about to receive, is on John |
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> Barleycorn, Nicotine, and the Temptations of NAT". |
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> And if it comes down to it, I'd much rather have IPV6 with IPV6 NAT |
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> being available, rather than no IPV6. |
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Hmmm, I'm still not convinced. |
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NAT (plus a whole boat load of other crap we've accumulated over the |
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years, NAT merely being the well-known poster-boy) is so ingrained in |
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people's heads it is now one of those things that we have to deal with. |
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Ignoring it (and the other crap too) is not going to change that it |
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really is up at the top of people's thought process. |
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When I say "people" I of course mean "people I interact with". I don't |
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claim to speak for all persons who deal with the internet somehow. |
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Yes, we should and must pound away that IPv4 is a limited resource and |
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it's close to being used up. But we still have to deal with the other |
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objections that rightly or wrongly get dumped on the table too. |
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Why do I think we must deal with these other issues rather than |
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concentrate on the major one? Because the other guy won't let it go and |
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won't really engage a discussion about IPv6 for real as he's sitting |
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with all these other objections uppermost in his mind. Chief amongst |
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them is the knowledge that he will have to redesign his entire network |
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from scratch (we all know that IPv6 is not a drop-in replacement for |
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IPv4) and the fear that somehow he has to keep business going and the |
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lights on while doing it. That scares people. Well, that's my experience |
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anyway. |
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Some days it feels like getting Kuthrapauli to talk to women. We know |
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all he needs to do is talk to them. He can't get past the thought that |
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he has to find a glass of wine first... |
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