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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Picking out a printer. Questions.
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 20:43:21
Message-Id: 397ff11b-a3ac-3d9a-7d29-7f8e485a33c9@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Picking out a printer. Questions. by Rich Freeman
1 Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 3:43 PM Manuel McLure <manuel@××××××.org> wrote:
3 >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:40 AM Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >>> On that note, I thought about going to some lawyers offices and Doctors
5 >>> and asking them to let me know when they upgrade their printers.
6 >>
7 >> A lot of those bigger printers/print centers are leased, so you might not have a lot of luck getting a used one.
8 > That, and large companies usually go through some kind of asset
9 > recovery service which will do auctions or sales.
10 >
11 > Note that you're not going to get some kind of "crazy deal" on stuff
12 > like this. These are workhorses whose value is well-extracted by the
13 > time they're sold, and then they're sold for what is probably a very
14 > fair price. If they are cheap, it is because they're not expected to
15 > last all that long or they're expected to not be worth the upkeep
16 > costs.
17 >
18 > Of course, as an individual your tolerance for fussing with hardware
19 > to get a good deal might be different. A company that has to dispatch
20 > somebody to drive to an office to fix a printer when it jams will have
21 > a lower tolerance for this than somebody who is willing to get their
22 > hands dirty to do it themselves. Just as back in the day companies
23 > would happily spend $150 on an LED light bulb simply to avoid the
24 > expense of sending a union custodian to climb a ladder to change one
25 > in an inconvenient fixture.
26 >
27 > I'd certainly look at your used options, but you can get a nice
28 > monochrome laser printer for under $200 which will last a very long
29 > time with a respectable per-page cost. It is true that the cost per
30 > page goes down as you scale up all the way to printing presses the
31 > size of buildings, but you really need to weigh capital vs operational
32 > costs. I'm obviously at the other extreme by paying Staples
33 > $0.10/page for monochrome, but with zero capital outlay.
34 >
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37 I hadn't thought about them leasing tho.  When Manuel mentioned that, I
38 knew that was a deal breaker. 
39
40 That's the other thing, I don't want a printer that requires a dedicated
41 240 volt outlet, pulls power like a short circuit and is as big as a
42 stove, all to print a few thousand sheets the first few months and maybe
43 a few hundred a month after that initial surge.  I've seen some large
44 printers that can do almost everything but wash dishes.  They would be
45 more than I need really. 
46
47 I've dug around, none of the other printers I find are listed on
48 openprinting.  I'm likely going to get the Lexmark.  Maybe prices will
49 come down some on the cartridges or I can refill them myself a time or
50 two and it work well.  I've done that on mono cartridges in the past. 
51 Usually you can get one refill before the cartridge starts to have other
52 issues.  Sometimes twice if lucky.  Still, it has to be better than
53 those cheap crap inkjet things I keep throwing away.  :/
54
55 Thanks to all for the ideas and helping me to know I'm getting one that
56 *should* work pretty easy. 
57
58 Dale
59
60 :-)  :-)