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On 2007-12-02, Grant <emailgrant@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>> Nice, I'm very glad to hear it works so well. I guess |
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>>> something like that would work even over an analog connection. |
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>> On a true analog (800MHz AMPS service) cell phone, I've had |
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>> pretty decent success using MNP5 modems up to about 2400 baud. |
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>> The standard CCITT error dectection/correction schemes used on |
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>> landline modems isn't resilient enough for RF links. Good luck |
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>> finding MNP5 analog modems. ;) Multitech in St. Paul was the |
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>> last vendor I knew about that sold them, and that was 10+ |
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>> years ago. |
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>> If you're talking about an analog connection to a digital |
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>> phone, it just won't work. The Codecs that digital phones use |
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>> are optimized for human speech and won't pass QPSK (or even |
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>> FSK) modem signals in a usable manner. |
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> What I meant there was that I should be able to dial up in |
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> this manner even if the signal is reported to be analog |
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> instead of digital. Is that true? |
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I still don't understand what you're asking. Unless you're |
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800MHz AMPS service, it's all digital. There is no analog |
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signalling on the network. |
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If you're using an 800MHz AMPS service, then the "voice" |
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channel is an analog FM link band-limited to 300-3KHz with C |
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message weighting (just like a landline phone connection). You |
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can push an analog modem signal through that voice channel, but |
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the channel quality varies a lot and you need a really |
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bullet-proof error-correction scheme like MNP5. |
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> Are you saying it depends on whether or not the phone is |
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> capable of 800MHz AMPS service? |
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I guess so. The carriers are going to shut down AMPS service |
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soon anyway. |
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>> It's just passing on digital data that's carried by the |
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>> wireless protocol in use (GSM/TDMA or 1xRTT/CDMA). When you |
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>> "dial up a landline" with a digital cell phone, the wireless |
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>> carrier actually has to connect a modem to a landline at the |
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>> carriers switch and dial the number. The digital data from the |
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>> cellphone is then routed to that modem. |
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>> If you're using the wireless carrier as the ISP, then there are |
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>> no modems involved at all: the digital data from the modem is |
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>> simply routed onto the Internet. |
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> I see. So the only ways you know of to get a laptop online |
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> with a cell phone are with a data plan in a digital service |
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> area, or with any Verizon plan in either an analog or digital |
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> service area? |
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If you're using analog service, you can use any carrier that |
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allows normal phone calls to access a dial-up modem. You just |
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need a phone with a phone jack into which you can plug an |
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analog modem. Motorol "bag" style phones used to have a |
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accessor that plugged between the handset and the radio which |
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provided a modem jack. I don't think you're going to find too |
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many current phones that provide an analog modem jack. |
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Sprint also apparently has a free low-speed Internet access |
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service similar to Verizon's "QNC" service. I don't know if |
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Sprint's free low-speed service allows you dial up a |
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landline-modem or not. |
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FWIW, I just plugged my VX4400 into my laptop, and Verizons |
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low-speed QNC service is still working. There are rumors |
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that Verizon is about to pull the plug on QNC, but those rumors |
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have been around for years. |
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Grant Edwards grante Yow! Are you guys lined up |
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at for the METHADONE PROGRAM |
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visi.com or FOOD STAMPS?? |
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