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From: Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:55:54
Message-Id: 1512906942.3369.15.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? by Jorge Almeida
1 On P, 2017-12-10 at 08:56 +0000, Jorge Almeida wrote:
2 > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:12 AM, R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com> wrote:
3 > > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Peter Humphrey <peter@×××××××××.co.
4 > > uk> wrote:
5 > > > On Saturday, 9 December 2017 12:00:12 GMT Jorge Almeida wrote:
6 > > > > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.co
7 > > > > m> wrote:
8 > > > > > Thank you all for detailed and clear replies.  You'd forgive
9 > > > > > me for
10 > > > > > being (a little) paranoid about Poettering's fingers getting
11 > > > > > anywhere
12 > > > > > near my systems.>
13 > > > > > :-p
14 > > > >
15 > > > > Are you sure you need udisks? And policykit?
16 > > >
17 > > > I'm pretty sure Mick runs KDE, which requires both of those.
18 > > >
19 > >
20 > > Eventually emerging @world will just pull in the entirety of the
21 > > Gentoo package repository, and we won't have to worry about what is
22 > > or
23 > > isn't necessary.
24 > >
25 > Not that I would object much to have gnome-common if I needed it (I
26 > don't), but it is a bit
27 > shocking that installing kde stuff pulls gnome stuff. After all,
28 > they're supposed to be alternative worldviews, er, desktop
29 > environments. Maybe the relevant people should stop and think whether
30 > unbridled complexity is a good idea?
31
32 So you are suggesting that each desktop environment must NIH
33 everything?
34
35 Want an auto-mounter and disk monitor and more for a modern desktop
36 experience - reimplement udisks.
37 Want a secure permissions handling framework for the desktop -
38 reimplement polkit.
39 Want a user account service handler for desktop logins - reimplement
40 accountsservice.
41 Want color profiles handling for monitors and co, and other associated
42 stuff - reimplement colord.
43 And so on.
44
45 That's all "GNOME stuff" by your definition, with GNOME Foundation
46 members being the project leaders or starters.
47
48 Meanwhile gnome-common is just a package for m4 macros for the older
49 autotools using world, and is deprecated in favor of autoconf-archive,
50 which had the good things of gnome-common integrated into it. Please
51 remove that package too, if you want to NIH.
52
53
54 People, this is open source. Stop advocating NIH and make use of the
55 benefits of open source and let the people actually doing stuff
56 collaborate on things and re-use/share projects as they see fit, for
57 less time waste and more making GNU/Linux (desktops) great over the
58 proprietary others.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>