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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:43:06
Message-Id: 5215B222.4000708@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs by "J. Roeleveld"
1 On 22/08/2013 08:20, J. Roeleveld wrote:
2 > On Wed, August 21, 2013 22:02, Neil Bothwick wrote:
3 >> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:50:57 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
4 >>
5
6 [snip]
7
8 >> No one has demonstrated that it can. An initramfs isn't magic, it
9 >> caries out a couple of trivial tasks before switching to the real root
10 >> partition.
11 >
12 > The issue mentioned was an example. It was also:
13 > 1) The only one I can remember from the last 4 or 5 years
14 > 2) Easily avoided with a "rebuild initramfs" notice during upgrade
15
16 Take out that word "Easily", it doesn't belong there.
17
18 What is the trigger condition that causes the message to be emitted?
19
20 Will it be in each ebuild whose files might end up in an intramfs?
21 Expect much bitching and refusing from the devs who will have to
22 maintain that, so not gonna fly.
23
24 Will it be at the tail end of all emerge actions? Ain't gonna fly either
25 as that is completely not a portage function. The PM installs and
26 updates packages, it does not check what you then do with the results.
27 And portage doesn't really know if you a) have an initramfs, b) where it
28 is, c) what you want in it (as opposed to what you have in it)
29
30 Will it be a reminder after installing kernel sources? Changed sources
31 are not the cause of the isolated problems being mentioned here. Changed
32 userland is.
33
34 Face it. If you want to use an initramf, IT IS THE USERS JOB to keep it
35 working as he wants it to work. It's a somewhat similar problem to out
36 of tree modules and keeping them installed and in sync - portage makes
37 zero effort to help with that one too.--
38 --
39 Alan McKinnon
40 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com

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