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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@×××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:10:56
Message-Id: 20171211210321.GA12473@ACM
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? by Neil Bothwick
1 Hello, Neil.
3 On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 18:56:15 +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
4 > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:13:30 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
6 > > I've no idea how good systemd is. It's not been through the normal
7 > > process of choice and selection that other successful packages have. It
8 > > was forced on people. But being forced to have a binary system log,
9 > > being forced (so I have heard) to have an http server running, ....,
11 > This may come as a surprise to some, but some things you hear on
12 > t'internet are not true...
14 :-)
16 > For example, the http server is there to allow access to logs from
17 > another machine without needing to grant SSH access. It is not enabled by
18 > default.
20 OK. But it's still there taking up RAM, and (more importantly) makes a
21 systemd system a broader target for attacks. Whether a system has an
22 http server (or, for that matter, an SSH server), for whatever purpose,
23 should be for the system administrator to decide. I suspect this isn't
24 the case for systemd's http server.
26 In any case, I don't want an http server on my system: I have no http to
27 serve. I installed sshd as one of the first things on my new system, to
28 facilitate the transfer of files to it (and, probably, reading logs from
29 it remotely).
31 I don't want a binary logging daemon either: that means having to learn
32 a special purpose utility to be able to read its logs, and, in general,
33 not being able to read that log from a remote machine.
35 There are likely other inflexibilities about systemd that I don't want
36 either. That's one reason why I'm sticking with openrc. The politics
37 of it is another.
39 > --
40 > Neil Bothwick
42 --
43 Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).


Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? Tom H <tomh0665@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? "J García" <jyo.garcia@×××××.com>