Re: [gentoo-user] More locale oddness

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 18:33 on Friday 07 January 2011, Stroller did 
opine thusly:

> On 7/1/2011, at 6:26am, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Can anyone else reproduce this, please, or tell me what behaviour is
> >> expected?
> >>
> >> $ locale
> >> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
> >> LC_CTYPE="en_GB.UTF-8"
> >> LC_NUMERIC="en_GB.UTF-8"
> >> ...
> >> $ date +"%l:%M%P"
> >> 1:39
> >> $ LC_TIME="POSIX"
> >> $ date +"%l:%M%P"
> >> 1:39am
> >> $
> >
> > Your output looks fine, except for the last two commands. LC_TIME is an
> > envvar, you have set it without exporting it, then ran data again and got
> > a change. I don't understand how you managed that as LC_TIME would no
> > longer be POSIX at that stage:
> >
> > $ cat /etc/env.d/02locale
> > LANG="en_GB.utf8"
> > $ locale
> > LANG=en_GB.utf8
> > LC_CTYPE="en_GB.utf8"
> > LC_NUMERIC="en_GB.utf8"
> > LC_TIME="en_GB.utf8"
> > ...
> > $ date +"%l:%M%P"
> > 8:16
> > $ LC_TIME="POSIX"
> > $ date +"%l:%M%P"
> > 8:17
> > $ LC_TIME="POSIX" date +"%l:%M%P"
> > 8:18am
>
> I've just tested on another machine. It seems like if I set it to match the
> first machine with both environments in the /etc/env.d/02locale:
>
> $ cat /etc/env.d/02locale
> LANG="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_TIME="POSIX"
> $ sudo env-update && source /etc/profile
> $ source ~/.bashrc
>
> Then I can reproduce switching LC_TIME without exporting or anything else:
>
> $ date +"%l:%M%P"
>  4:01pm
> $ LC_TIME="en_GB.utf8"
> $ date +"%l:%M%P"
>  4:02
> $ LC_TIME="POSIX"
> $ date +"%l:%M%P"
>  4:02pm
> $
>
> Removing either (& rebooting, because I don't really understand this stuff)
> removes the ability.
>
> I don't know whether this is supposed to be correct or not; with both
> environments in /etc/env.d/02locale:
>
> $ LC_TIME="POSIX"
> $ locale
> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
> LC_CTYPE="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_TIME=POSIX
> LC_COLLATE="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_MESSAGES="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_PAPER="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_NAME="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_ALL=
> $ LC_TIME="en_GB.utf8"
> $ locale
> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
> LC_CTYPE="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_TIME=en_GB.utf8
> LC_COLLATE="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_MESSAGES="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_PAPER="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_NAME="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB.UTF-8"
> LC_ALL=
> $
>
> The variable is lacking quotes in the `locale` output above; I have no idea
> whether or not this makes any difference.
>
> Stroller.


The effect of LC_TIME= on your machines doesn't make sense to me.

What shell are you running?


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