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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:05:24
Message-Id: 201008290804.33916.joost@antarean.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the "newer" PATA kernel drivers by Nikos Chantziaras
1 On Sunday 29 August 2010 03:24:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
2 > On 08/28/2010 10:42 PM, Dale wrote:
3 > > Alex Schuster wrote:
4 > >> Dale writes:
5 > >>> It would be nice if something like *fdisk could edit the labels tho.
6 > >>> It would be so much easier. I didn't see anything in the man pages
7 > >>> tho.
8 > >>
9 > >> I'd like this, too. cfdisk displays them, but is not abel to edit.
10 > >>
11 > >>> I looked into LVM a good while ago. It's just to much for me to keep
12 > >>> up with since I just have a desktop system here. It has its good
13 > >>> points but just way overkill for what I have here.
14 > >>
15 > >> It's not that complicated. In a nutshell:
16 > >>
17 > >> Choose the partitions you want to use for LVM, and prepare them to be
18 > >> physical volumes:
19 > >> pvcreate /dev/sda[678]
20 > >>
21 > >> Create a volume group out of these partitions:
22 > >> vgcreate myvg /dev/sda[678]
23 > >>
24 > >> Create logical volumes in this volume group:
25 > >> lvcreate -L 5G -n lvm1 myvg
26 > >> lvcreate -L 2G -n lvm2 myvg
27 > >>
28 > >> Use these logical volumes just as disk partitions:
29 > >>
30 > >> mke2fs -j -L fs_on_lvm /dev/myvg/lvm1
31 > >> mount /dev/myg/lvm1 /mnt/fs_on_lvm
32 > >>
33 > >> The file system is too small? Just extend its size by 1G, without
34 > >> unmouning:
35 > >>
36 > >> lvresize -L +1G /dev/myvg/lvm1
37 > >>
38 > >> The volume groups is getting full, no space to add LVMs? Add other
39 > >> partitions. If you like, even from a 2nd drive:
40 > >>
41 > >> pvcreate /dev/sdb5
42 > >> vgextend myvg /dev/sdb5
43 > >>
44 > >> So, it's of course more complicated than just firing up cfdisk, create
45 > >> partitions and file systems on them, but you have much more flexibility.
46 > >> Once you have LVM, you do not have to care what the actual device
47 > >> names of
48 > >> your drives are. If sda becomes sdb and vice versa, no problem, and
49 > >> nothing to worry about. LVM does not use the device name, it scans each
50 > >> partition and uses the LVM UUIDs on them to identify what is what.
51 > >>
52 > >> Wonko
53 > >
54 > > Since I finally got this thing settled with partition sizes, that's
55 > > pretty complicated. I have root, /boot, /home, portage and a data
56 > > partition for misc. junk. I doubt it will change any in the near future.
57 > >
58 > > I did read up on it one time a while back. It's neat when you have to
59 > > add drives and resize things but still a bit much for a little desktop.
60 >
61 > I'd stay away from LVM. I started using it on a Debian Lenny machine
62 > and performance went down the drain. For example, deleting a 3GB file
63 > was almost instant and now it takes like 15 seconds. It's almost as if
64 > with LVM, deleting a file means writing 0 all over the 3GB first :-/
65
66 That sounds like a different issue.
67 I haven't noticed any major performance issues myself.
68
69 But to test quickly:
70 LVM:
71 # ~/speedtest $ time dd if=/dev/zero of=3gigfile bs=1024 count=3000000
72 3000000+0 records in
73 3000000+0 records out
74 3072000000 bytes (3.1 GB) copied, 33.3029 s, 92.2 MB/s
75
76 real 0m33.305s
77 user 0m0.440s
78 sys 0m16.370s
79 # ~/speedtest $ time rm 3gigfile
80
81 real 0m3.827s
82 user 0m0.000s
83 sys 0m1.131s
84
85 # hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
86
87 /dev/sda:
88 Timing cached reads: 4758 MB in 2.00 seconds = 2379.87 MB/sec
89 Timing buffered disk reads: 274 MB in 3.02 seconds = 90.84 MB/sec
90 **************
91 Non-LVM:
92 # /data/speedtest $ time dd if=/dev/zero of=3gigfile bs=1024 count=3000000
93 3000000+0 records in
94 3000000+0 records out
95 3072000000 bytes (3.1 GB) copied, 38.2821 s, 80.2 MB/s
96
97 real 0m38.284s
98 user 0m0.397s
99 sys 0m9.490s
100 # /data/speedtest $ time rm 3gigfile
101
102 real 0m0.721s
103 user 0m0.000s
104 sys 0m0.720s
105
106 # hdparm -Tt /dev/sdb
107
108 /dev/sdb:
109 Timing cached reads: 3396 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1698.30 MB/sec
110 Timing buffered disk reads: 252 MB in 3.00 seconds = 83.94 MB/sec
111
112
113 Both filesystems are ext3
114
115 Based on this, it takes about 3 seconds more. That is something I can easily
116 live with.
117 But instantaneous to 15 seconds, I think there might be some other factors
118 there?
119
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