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On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 01:15:51PM -0400, james wrote: |
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> On 8/28/20 5:10 PM, antlists wrote: |
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> > On 28/08/2020 19:10, james wrote: |
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> >> |
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> >> A council member, from say England, could manage how 1/2 of what they |
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> >> raise is spent. It could even "english centric" but must comply with |
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> >> USA IRS standards. Our council could be expanded to many members, from |
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> >> other countries, with a centic goal of spending Gentoo funds |
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> > WHY? As a Brit I wouldn't want to touch the Americal Legal System with a |
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> > barge pole!!! |
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> >> |
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> >> Truly, there is no other globally recognized tax system |
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> >> like the USA-IRS (bad ass && world class open). That's why in times of |
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> >> trouble, entrepreneurs world wide flock to the "dollar". Also, being |
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> >> in elite standing with the USA-IRS opens many door doors to enhance |
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> >> and promote and deploy GENTOO globally. |
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> > And as a Brit, while HMRC may be a pain, I have precious little to do |
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> > with them. My employer deals with them, and at the end of the year I |
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> > occasionally get a letter saying I've overpaid my taxes and here's some |
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> > money back. Do I REALLY want to get involved with some foreign system |
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> > that's WAY more complicated? |
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> > Get rid of your rose-tinted spectacles. For the MAJORITY of Brits, our |
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> > tax system is way less complicated than yours. You'd be better off |
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> > moving the foundation to somewhere that doesn't have your insane mix of |
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> > state and federal taxes, and doesn't offload the responsibility onto |
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> > people who don't understand the system. |
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> > Cheers, |
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> > Wol |
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> Each group of gentoo users, by legal status of the country they reside |
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> in, has to be responsible for keeping their gentoo activities safe, |
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> legal and prosperous. You are absolutely correct. I too struggle with |
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> American laws; I feel your pain and outrage at the USA government. |
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> Never the less, Gentoo is anchored, legally, in the USA? |
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> So that is my perspective. My efforts. My area of involvement with |
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> Gentoo is centric to and under the auspices of the USA tax codes and |
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> other legal requirements. I know that England is a wonderful place, as I |
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> have many friends there. |
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> I assume we are stuck with the American legal system, as that is where |
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> Gentoo, historically, choose. None of that precludes Gentoo from forming |
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> legal branches in other countries, except for costs and a mountain of |
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> ever expanding legal requirements. So, that is often, the overwhelming |
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> reason many global charities choose the USA |
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> and all of the legal encumbrances that are required. |
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> If you or others wish other legal foundations for Gentoo, make your |
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> offers and suggestion to the Gentoo Council? Gentoo Devs? Besides if |
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> the new triumvirate: |
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> Canada, England, Australia and New Zealand is successful, then you can |
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> compare Gentoo being registered therein, or keeping things in the USA? |
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> Sound to me like you are an excellent candidate to join the Gentoo |
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> Council? If so, contact Mgorny for pointers. |
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The functions being discussed in this thread belong to the |
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trustees (the board of directors for the foundation) [1]. Thhey are |
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definitely not part of the council's skill set [2]. |
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mgorny and others are advocating disbanding the Gentoo foundation |
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and transfering all of Gentoo's assets to an organization such as the Software |
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Freedom Conservancy [3] and allowing the council to exist as it currently does. |
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As a member of the council, I'll be the first to say I don't know |
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anything about trustee functions. For me, the question is, do we want to |
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control our own destiny as an organization or do we want to have another |
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organization control it in some way? To be honest, I do not have that |
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answer because I don't know how much control an umbrella organization |
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would try to exert, and since they would control our purse strings, I |
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don't know what the scope of control they would be able to exert is. |
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William |
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[1] https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/foundation/ |
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[2] https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0039.html |
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[3] https://sfconservancy.org/ |