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From: ubiquitous1980 <nixuser1980@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compiz effects vs kwin
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:21:23
Message-Id: 4B9D8B72.3080204@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compiz effects vs kwin by "Kacper Kopczyński"
1 Kacper Kopczyński wrote:
2 > Dnia 2010-03-14, o godz. 05:34:04
3 > Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.de> napisał(a):
4 >
5 >
6 >> On 03/14/2010 04:57 AM, ubiquitous1980 wrote:
7 >>
8 >>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
9 >>>
10 >>>> On 03/14/2010 02:53 AM, ubiquitous1980 wrote:
11 >>>>
12 >>>>> The effects in kwin (such as window wobble) are vastly less
13 >>>>> smooth than that in compiz. I have noticed that compiz is faster
14 >>>>> in both kde4 and in gnome (with slight preference to gnome in
15 >>>>> speed) and wondering if this is normal, or something to do with
16 >>>>> my kwin setup. Running on GM 965
17 >>>>>
18 >>>> kwin got crappy animation speed in KDE 4.4. It was as smooth as
19 >>>> compiz in 4.3. I asked about it in the KDE mailing list, but there
20 >>>> was zero interest in this regression. So you either have to live
21 >>>> with it, or switch to compiz.
22 >>>>
23 >>>>
24 >>>>
25 >>> Thanks for your reply. I am currently using kde 4.3 because I try
26 >>> only to update to downstream-stable. Is there another explanation?
27 >>>
28 >> Too old drivers and X maybe. Since you're using downstream-stable,
29 >> but the cool DRM/GL/KMS stuff is only in the latest upstream
30 >> versions, this might be the problem.
31 >>
32 >>
33 >>
34 >
35 > kwin is slower on intel cards. Kwin with gnome or xfce is much
36 > faster... Intel video cards are very slow...
37 >
38 > From my experience every version of kde above 3.0 is slower than any
39 > other window manager (gnome (sawfish, metacity, enlightenment),
40 > xfce(xfwm), compiz, lxde,...), on every machine I've had. It needs more
41 > memory, faster hard disks, stable filesystem (ext4::delalloc?), better
42 > video card... and so on. Even Qt seems to be slower than GTK+ if you
43 > launch application that does similar thing.
44 >
45 > ...or it's just my imagination :)
46 >
47 > If you want smooth kde get a nvidia or ati card, at least 256MB, 2GB
48 > ram, 1.6GHz.
49 >
50 > You could also try nice/renice
51 >
52 >
53 Thanks for your advice. It seems that this is the way of things: compiz
54 is very efficient but slightly incompatible with kde 4.x and kwin is
55 highly compatible and integrated but uses a lot of horse power.
56
57 Thanks,
58
59 Damien