Re: [gentoo-user] Error message in Xorg.log for intel xorg driver

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Paul Hartman
> <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Wolfgang Liebich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:35:11AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Wolfgang Liebich
>>>>>>> <Wolfgang.Liebich@×××××××.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Furthermore yesterday I had a total lockup when I came to work at the
>>>>>>>> morning --- could not login at kdm, kdm would ignore all keyboard
>>>>>>>> input etc. I had to do a hard restart with the "Magic SysRQ" key
>>>>>>>> (remount ro, hard reboot).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have evdev installed? Without it, you probably won't have any
>>>>>>> keyboard or mouse. Recent xorg made dramatic changes to the way
>>>>>>> hardware is detected/configured by using HAL and evdev. xorg.conf is
>>>>>>> basically unused now when it comes to configuring hardware. I don't
>>>>>>> even have keyboard or mouse, or video modelines or anything like that
>>>>>>> in mine. Search the list archives or the gentoo web forums, there are
>>>>>>> many many people who had the same issues (assuming it's the cause of
>>>>>>> yours).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evdev is installed, but I configured the kbd driver (I have a MS
>>>>>> Natural Keyboard, btw --- what's the best driver for that keyboard?).
>>>>>> I still have an xorg.conf (and I'm not very inclined to change it as
>>>>>> long as it works :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Furthermore -- after the reboot everything worked again as before. It
>>>>>> seems to have been some fluke, but I want to know where it comes from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>> Wolfgang
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Someone else like me.  I still have my xorg.conf and want to keep it
>>>>> too.  I don't have evdev installed but from the way it sounds, me and
>>>>> you may have to change in the future, maybe near future.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sort of wondering what pulls in evdev anyway?  I got a fully running
>>>>> KDE and this is my new install.  Nothing pulled it in here.  I may be
>>>>> missing a USE flag or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's hope this works for a while longer yet.  ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Dale
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You need "evdev" in your INPUT_DEVICES variable (mine lives in
>>>> make.conf). In my case I have:
>>>>
>>>> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse joystick evdev"
>>>>
>>>> and portage automagically built those packages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> So if evdev failed for some reason, it would fall back to the keyboard
>>> and mouse drivers you think?  That I would be willing to try if that is
>>> the case.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I don't know, for me it simply works as intended so... maybe I'll try
>> to remove the keyboard and mouse and see what happens  :) but in my
>> case my xorg.conf is virtually empty aside from some fonts and nvidia
>> card options. My display and input devices "just work" without being
>> specified in xorg.conf with drivers, modelines or any of that stuff. I
>> changed monitors yesterday and simply killed X and it restarted in the
>> optimal resolution for the new monitor. I've plugged different
>> mouse/keyboard and it just works automatically.
>>
>> The HAL policies in /etc/hal/fdi/policy contain the same exact
>> settings as xorg.conf only formatted a little differently... you can
>> give device-specific custom settings if you need and I think
>> everything you have done in xorg.conf can be done the new way.
>>
>>
>
> I should say they CAN contain the same exact settings. It is up to you
> to put them there :)
>
>
>

I'm curious about this now.  I run my monitor at 1280x1024 but it can
run 1600x something.  Thing is, everything is so small, I can't really
see anything.  Even the mouse pointer is really small, about the size of
a pencil lead.  If I know where it is I can find it otherwise I have to
push to a corner, then find it and go from there.  I need new glasses
but can't afford it right now.

If I can still run at 1280x1024, this may be worth trying out.  I would
rather try it while the old way still works rather than wait until it
doesn't and run into . . . issues.

Dale

:-)  :-)