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Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-08 18:02 (UTC+0100): |
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> On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:00:29 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: |
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>> Yep, I find it infuriating that by default all distros seem to go to |
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>> great effort to hide as much information about the boot/startup |
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>> process as possible. WTF? Do they think that stuff is top secret or |
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>> something? Are they afraid they'll lose their jobs if that info gets |
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>> out? |
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> No, they think that the type of user they are trying to attract is likely |
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> to be scared off by all that cryptic text scrolling by. They are probably |
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> right. |
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> Gentoo doesn't hide it, it merely clears the screen once the boot has |
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> completed successfully. |
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Clear happens so quickly the messages may as well have never been there. I |
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get to see first maybe 4 or 5 if I don't blink at the wrong time. |
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> If the boot halts, you can see where and, |
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> usually, why it stopped. Try that with openUbundora. |
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I'm not sure Fedostemdtering hasn't incorporated noclear for tty1 by default. |
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I dislike Anaconda, so don't install it often, preferring to upgrade with |
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Yum->DNF. I just booted an F23 installation that didn't clear, but I can't |
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say that wasn't because I long ago reconfigured systemd. |
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openSUSE has been my distro of choice since before it was born, as SuSE 8.2. |
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Except for a period of transitioning from sysvinit to systemd[1], noclear has |
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been always its default for *getty on tty1. To actually have all the init |
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messages reach tty1 requires eliminating splash=silent and/or quiet from boot |
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stanza, but that's easy rote during its installer's bootloader configuration |
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step, and easily doable on the fly in Grub GFXboot if overlooked during |
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installation. |
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[1] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721660 |
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"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant |
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) |
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Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! |
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Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ |