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On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.de> wrote: |
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> On 10/25/2011 08:11 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: |
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>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de> |
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>> wrote: |
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>>> |
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>>> On 10/25/2011 07:17 PM, Michael Mol wrote: |
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>>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Mark Knecht<markknecht@×××××.com> |
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>>>> wrote: |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Paul Hartman |
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>>>>>> Or that commercial linux sound driver package... I don't even remember |
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>>>>>> what it was called anymore. |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> OSS I think - something like Open Sound System or some such other |
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>>>>> crazy thing, being it was neither Open nor most of the time for me |
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>>>>> produced Sound on my System. ;-) |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> I think there is still support for it in the kernel. Go figure... |
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>>>> It's only been deprecated for over a decade...I can only barely |
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>>>> remember a time before ALSA was pulled into the mainline kernel. |
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>>> |
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>>> OSS is the standard sound system for Unix still to this day though. |
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>>> Everybody uses it, except Linux. |
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>>> It's GPL by the way. I actually use it on my main PC ;-) On supported |
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>>> sound cards, it works much better than ALSA. Not the version in the |
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>>> kernel, |
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>>> of course, that one is deprecated. The newest version is v4 and is only |
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>>> available out-of-kernel. |
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>> I imagine that it's support for the cards it supported in that time |
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>> period was probably better than ALSA. I came to Linux looking for a |
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>> platform to replace Windows to support Avid's ProTools. As I soon |
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>> learned that wasn't going to happen, at least not soon, and it hasn't |
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>> changed in the 10-15 years I've been using Linux. However in those |
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>> days my need for ALSA was driven by OSS not supporting any sound card |
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>> hardware that was of interest to people recording music. ALSA was at |
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>> least trying, and has gotten much better over the years with things |
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>> like Jack and rt-sources which easily outperforms Windows in terms of |
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>> latency. |
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> That's true. Though I judge by desktop needs on my machine. The lack of a |
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> per-application volume mixer in ALSA is really frustrating. And if you bark |
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> about it, you're told to install PulseAudio, which is another can of worms |
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> entirely :-/ I guess I'm gonna be using OSSv4 for as long as that old |
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> Soundblaster Live I have here refuses to die. |
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Agreed; per-app volume controls are nice. The Linux-specific nature of |
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ALSA isn't such a good thing. Though if ALSA implements an OSSv4 |
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wrapper, that's not so bad. (Not that I think they're likely to; if |
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the wrapper exposes more functionality than their core supports, it'll |
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greatly complicate their architecture.) |
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I also kinda miss being able to test audio with cat. I have a t-shirt |
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somewhere which says "cat /boot/vmlinux > /dev/audio # The sound of |
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Linux". That was my quote for my high school's Science Olympiad team |
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T-shirt. Being able to record audio files using the reverse was also |
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very convenient, as was testing microphone settings by dumping the |
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device to the terminal. |
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