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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: OT: Merchant bankers (Was: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:25:52
Message-Id: CAK2H+ee49JudZd5Hb_3bLcTrKrRGJO8=z3bcgx-UR2nyjyDbrw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: OT: Merchant bankers (Was: [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths by Mick
1 On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Saturday 17 Sep 2011 09:00:37 Pandu Poluan wrote:
3 >> On Sep 17, 2011 4:54 AM, "David W Noon" <dwnoon@××××××××.com> wrote:
4 >> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:49:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re:
5 >> >
6 >> > [gentoo-user] Any big gotcha's when update from several (5) mnths:
7 >> > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:02:27 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
8 >> > [snip]
9 >> >
10 >> > > > The world of trading is 99% boredom, 1% terror...
11 >> > >
12 >> > > Tell that to UBS...
13 >> >
14 >> > Don't go there!  I used to work for UBS, about 11 years ago.  I (and
15 >> > many others) was laid off when they lost a fortune on the dot-com
16 >> > bubble.  Then they were bankers to Enron.  Then they were bankers to
17 >> > Worldcom. [See a pattern here?] Then they bought sub-prime mortgage
18 >> > portfolios -- as hedge instruments.  Now they've been shafted by one of
19 >> > their traders.
20 >> >
21 >> > Of course, all of the directors are business geniuses, as all senior
22 >> > City folk are.
23 >>
24 >> So, the moral of the story is: don't trust a banker. Unless he's
25 >> well-versed in Gentoo :-)
26 >
27 > Since we're soooo [OT] I might as well ask Mark:
28 >
29 > How close are we to 1930's like depression given the state of European banks
30 > exposure to a Greek default (and how might this drag down the US with CDSs
31 > across the pond and what not)?
32 >
33 > PS. Yes, any bank(s)ters who don't use Gentoo are inherently suspicious
34 > entities ...
35 > --
36 > Regards,
37 > Mick
38 >
39
40 Mick,
41 First, I apologize to anyone not interested. Possibly I should have
42 answered Nick offline with all the traffic the list has had recently.
43 I'm happy to converse with anyone about any topic concerning trading,
44 but going forward let's do this off list.
45
46 WRT the depression question I have no training, background or
47 experience in trying to forecast that sort of thing. We are likely in
48 at least the 2nd worst time economy of the last 100 years. I have no
49 reason to hope it becomes the worst...
50
51 WRT to the European problems, and they are legion with only 1 or 2
52 economies there actually doing moderately well right now, this feels
53 like the sort of environment wherein one really bad result in the EU
54 (Italy or Greece) could result in major issues here in the U.S.
55 financial sector at a minimum, and as we saw in 2008, when the U.S.
56 financial system shuts down the rest of the world, U.S. & otherwise,
57 pretty much shuts down also. At that point we're back into the sort of
58 problems we saw a few years ago but I suspect taking longer than 5
59 years to repair themselves.
60
61 Of course, I'm a committed (read that word any way you like, as in
62 'should be') fan of the Kondratiev wave/Super Cycle ideas and started
63 positioning myself in 2001 for a major slowdown in the world economies
64 which, so far, has worked out to be the case. On 9/11/2011 the S&P 500
65 was within about .1% of where it was on 9/10/2001. The 'Lost
66 Decade'...
67
68 Here's a link:
69
70 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondratiev_wave
71
72 While I don't agree with the timing on the Wikipedia page - I see it
73 as more like 2000-2017 - I think the ideas have held for over 200
74 years and seem to be in play now. That cycle timing would support
75 another 5 years of these problems with a good economy from 2018-2034
76 or so.
77
78 I had another good day Friday with 16 winners/6 losers. I hate that
79 it's in Windows, but I love that Windows only runs here in Virtualbox
80 VMs. I'd love to have a Linux-based trading environment that supported
81 everything I need to do but unfortunately nothing I've tried in Linux
82 really gets the job done for me.
83
84 OK, over and out on the list. All other questions off list. Flames
85 -> /dev/null.
86
87 Cheers,
88 Mark

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