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On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 09:42:58PM +0100, john wrote: |
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> behrouz khosravi <bz.khosravi@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > > If you build/install Android on a device, then it only contains what |
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> > > you put there, and you can just as easily remove it. If you let |
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> > > somebody else build/install android on a device and not give you |
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> > > root access, then it is painful. |
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> > > […] |
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> > > Your problem isn't with Android the OS. Your problem is with the |
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> > > experience your phone vendor is giving you. All that lockdown stuff |
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> > > that you seem to hate is 100% supported by the Linux kernel - you're |
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> > > just not turning it on with a typical distro install. |
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> > > […] |
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> > > For a mobile OS your life is made even more difficult by Android, |
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> > > since many who would tend to write a competing OS probably consider |
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> > > it good enough. |
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> > > |
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> > > I'm really not interested in yet another android so much as more |
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> > > open hardware to run android on. Vendors are getting better about |
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> > > allowing unlocking, but driver support/etc is still a mess. |
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> > > Oh, and I don't like the general move of APIs into Google Play |
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> > > Services. That really needs to be split into two applications. |
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> > > […] |
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> > I know what you mean. This is all more or less true, but what can we do |
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> > in this situation? I will try to move toward whatever promotes openness, |
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> > and please do not tell me that ubuntu is not more open that android. In |
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> > android I cant even have pure native apps! some parts of an application |
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> > should always be in java. |
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> Jolla do a phone which is Linux based. No idea if this would suit your |
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> needs but may be worth a look. It's GUI is good and it uses Wayland. |
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> Not sure how open it is! |
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I second Jolla. |
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FWIW, I consider buying one myself if and when my current Android¹ finally |
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kicks the bucket. As far as I already know about its Sailfish OS: you can |
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install native (processor native, not bytecode native, i.e. C) programs via |
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RPM package management and it runs pulse audio underneath, as one example of |
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standard linux software. |
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It does not have high-power hardware like high-end androids, but similar to |
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Crapple devices – thanks to the OS *and* userspace running natively – its |
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medium-range hardware is more than andequate to run everything smoothly. |
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And if you *do* need Android software (like I would with Osmand), you can |
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actually run it on Jolla, too, including stores like F-Droid. |
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What still holds me off a little is that – in my view – 4½″ is already too |
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big for a really mobile device. I’d consider around 4″ to be the maximum to |
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comfortably fit in any pocket. But in the end, I see hardly any alternative |
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(for me of course). Plus my money stays on the continent. ;-Þ |
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¹ A cheap Huawei from early 2013, 3.5″, running CyanogenMod with Android |
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4.2. It has a puny single-core and is specced at the low end, but it still |
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runs and suits my needs. |
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Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ |
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Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. |
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Every day has the same length, only a different width. |