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From: Miroslav Rovis <miro.rovis@××××××××××××××.hr>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] sans-dbus was: gnome intrusion?
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:46:58
Message-Id: 20161116124726.GA8424@g0n.xdwgrp
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome intrusion? by Jorge Almeida
1 On 161114-21:49+0000, Jorge Almeida wrote:
2 > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Kai Krakow <hurikhan77@×××××.com> wrote:
3 > > Am Mon, 14 Nov 2016 09:32:59 +0000
4 >
5 > >> --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork
6 > >> --print-address 3
7 > >> 417 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/libexec/at-spi2-registryd
8 >
9 ...
10 > I also would love to get rid of dbus, but I suppose something
11 > essential would break.
12 ...
13 > Jorge
14 >
15
16 I live without dbus. I've only recently noticed (can't be since long)
17 there is a dbus flag.
18
19 Find here also my very disliked pulseaudio and policykit flags:
20 https://www.gentoo.org/support/use-flags/
21
22 It's been my hard won struggle to rid me of dbus:
23 Uninstalling dbus and *kits (to Unfacilitate Remote Seats)
24 https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992146.html
25
26 I'm linking there because I was on the verge of giving up at one point,
27 and I don't know if you may need to look all the long and gory details,
28 as it wasn't completely easy to rid of dbus then... While it may be now.
29
30 I decided to go sans-dbus at all costs when I discovered a similar issue
31 like you report in the first main of this thread to which I now
32 participate:
33
34 [gentoo-user] gnome intrusion?
35 https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/message/4cd394faa9a3749bfc6bafbf6293ceba
36
37 Have a look:
38 Re: How to avoid stealth installation of systemd?
39 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=116770&start=45#p552566
40
41 pasting parts of what I found, for the lazy:
42 $ ps aux | grep ssh
43 root 2184 0.0 0.0 54976 1004 ? Ss Sep06 0:00
44 /usr/sbin/sshd
45 mr 2447 0.0 0.0 10592 32 ? Ss Sep06 0:00
46 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
47 x-session-manager
48 mr 15141 0.0 0.0 19980 1796 pts/9 S+ 21:48 0:00 grep
49 ssh
50 $
51
52 It was the dbus-launch, it was an encrypted session in my own machine.
53 C'mon??!!
54
55 Also, I've noticed that our developers are lending an ear to sans-dbus
56 users, as they are getting way more packages then previosly that do not
57 depend in the least on dbus anymore (Firefox, Wireshark, Inkscape ...
58 well I don't use very many packages... Ah, not to forget, Qt5 now does
59 not depend on dbus, or D-Bus, used below...)
60
61 Ah, I almost forgot. Gentoo is as default (OpenRC) without dbus! Have a
62 look:
63
64 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems
65
66 There is no D-Bus under "Main dependencies" for OpenRC (I really like
67 OpenRC...)
68
69 (
70 However, the search for newbies, not for someone who knows what (s)he
71 is searching, like me now, is not inclined, if others see what I see
72 when they search wiki, and pasting:
73 openrc init systems
74 in searchbox at:
75 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page
76 didn't give me:
77 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems
78 How is that? I had noticed the same not-finding-it for Grsecurity long
79 time ago...
80 )
81
82 Regards!
83 --
84 Miroslav Rovis
85 Zagreb, Croatia
86 http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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Re: [gentoo-user] sans-dbus was: gnome intrusion? Jorge Almeida <jjalmeida@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] sans-dbus was: gnome intrusion? Tom H <tomh0665@×××××.com>