Re: [gentoo-user] LVM for data drives but not the OS

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Thursday 07 April 2011 09:11:35 Dale wrote:
> Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 April 2011 15:41:00 Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> >> On Thursday 07 April 2011 14:31:43 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:21:33 +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> >>>> I think Dale will probably succeed in breaking it :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Dale, this comment isn't meant as an insult. I honestly think you
> >>>> would
> >>>> be perfect for some QA or Testing job :)
> >>>
> >>> But not on any project you wanted to finish on time ;-)
> >>
> >> LOL :)
> >> Seriously, if all the Open Source developers would make the software
> >> reliable enough to pass his testing methods, there wouldn't be any
> >> grounds for discussion :)
> >> It would just work, always....
> >>
> >> --
> >> Joost
> >>
> >> PS. I actually enjoy having people on the list with different levels
> >> and
> >> types of experience. I think I probably learn more stuff via questions
> >> from so-called "beginners" then from the "old-timers" ;)
> >
> > Actually, thinking about it.
> > Dale, please do try what Neil suggested. Preferably also document what
> > you do so we have a few test cases :)
> >
> > --
> > Joost
>
> I did this many years ago.  When I built my very first rig, I installed
> Mandriva.  Don't shoot me,

Why would I? :)
I first played with Linux in 1997.
First distro I tried was slackware and then Redhat.
When redhat started moving more towards Gnome, and I was hit by rpm-
dependencies once too many, I started looking.
It was then that I noticed Gentoo and after a bit of playing with it, moved to 
Gentoo fully.
If, at that time, Ubuntu had been around, I might have missed Gentoo 
alltogether.

> I hadn't heard of Gentoo yet.  I only knew
> about Redhat and Mandriva at the time.  Anyway, I had one heck of a time
> installing the nvidia drivers.  Lots of people had issues where their
> GUI wouldn't come back up when they installed the drivers.  So, since I
> was a "fool" at the time, I made notes and such as to how I did mine.
> When it worked, I did a howto on it from a "fools" point of view.  I put
> it on about three different sites.  LQ, JL and one other one.  It had a
> HUGE amount of views.  If followed, it worked.  I think me explaining
> from a beginners perspective helped a lot of people, plus I tried to
> keep it simple, like me.  lol

Simple-worded howtos tend to be the best.
Unfortunately, people who really know and understand the subject tend to 
become unable to properly word it all in such a way that mere mortals 
understand it as well.

> I think some of the reason I haven't grasped LVM is that it is somewhat
> complicated and it is explained by folks that know the nuts and bolts of
> it.  It's like explaining Gentoo Linux to a windoze user who has never
> seen Linux or even knows what a kernel is.

Hmm... I've given up on those conversations ;)
I'll simply wait till people get curious about what I'm doing with computers 
and why I never complain about them crashing all the time ;)

> I'm still looking up howtos in hope of having a light bulb moment.  I'll
> have one, it's just a matter of when.

Well... I'm confident that light bulb can be lit...

--
Joost